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Damn. That's some bad mojo right there...
Well, there was a change of Captain. Maybe the new guy said he wanted his own choice for CMO.
By any naval definition, Enterprise has never been a Starfleet flagship.
Let's not forget Mark Piper. Dr. Piper is on the Enterprise during Kirk's first year in command. McCoy doesn't assume his role as CMO until 2266 as confirmed by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and M'Benga isn't seen again until "A Private Little War(TOS)," set in 2267. Lots of changes in Sickbay coming in the next six years or so.
Makes the Crusher > Pulaski > Crusher progression seem a lot simpler
Commander Kirk: M'Benga! I just want to extend my belated condolences on the loss of the USS Discovery. It was a fine ship, and to lose so many, you and the other survivors were lucky to be off-ship when that happened.
M'Benga: I, uh (glances nervously at Spock) have no idea what you're talking about. Disco what?
Commander Kirk: I could have sworn I heard you were Chief Medical Officer on USS Discovery.
M'Benga: Oh no no no, that was Dr. Culber. No wait, I mean Dr. Pollard after Culber was killed by a Klingon. Oh wait he's alive. No I mean he's dead. Again. Right.
Kirk: Wait what? What are you talking about? You just said you had no idea what I'm talking about, then start rattling off names and nonsense... (makes mental note that M'Benga's losing it, and to bring in another CMO)
M'Benga: I, uh (glances nervously at Spock) have no idea what you're talking about. Disco what?
Commander Kirk: I could have sworn I heard you were Chief Medical Officer on USS Discovery.
M'Benga: Oh no no no, that was Dr. Culber. No wait, I mean Dr. Pollard after Culber was killed by a Klingon. Oh wait he's alive. No I mean he's dead. Again. Right.
Kirk: Wait what? What are you talking about? You just said you had no idea what I'm talking about, then start rattling off names and nonsense... (makes mental note that M'Benga's losing it, and to bring in another CMO)
Interning in a Vulcan ward could take him off the ship for most of the period between 2259 and 2267. Unless it's established he's already done that by the beginning of SNW.
I definitely agree. I would rather see a well casted Robert April and George Kirk than a young James Kirk.
I never understood the April obsession. But, I can't throw stones in my class house.
And George Kirk is a near nobody.
And George Kirk is a near nobody.
Go read Final Frontier and Best Destiny by Diane Carey and come back and say that. Maybe they aren't canon but they are some of the best Star Trek novels period.
Since we haven't seen this particular "back then" until now, we didn't know it was. It is now.
So?
I deal with shows, not books. I have some extremely favorite Trek novels that mean dick all to my enjoyment of shows.
I don't recall them being so but to each their own.
There are many Trek books that are literally better than shows in my opinion. I consider the New Frontier novels to be better than Enterprise, Picard so far and Discovery so far but that's just me.
Probably so. That doesn't change my opinion on shows. It's completely different mediums. I have books that I much prefer to the vast majority of shows out there, but that's me. I am a total book worm, but I will not judge shows vs. books. For me it doesn't work that way and treating a character special because they were important in a book is not how I engage with two different story telling methods.
And telling me something is better than a show is a bit odd. Like, ok, but a book is far different animal than a show. A show has to engage the audience at multiple levels. A book does so differently. Way differently. Often times utilizing the reader's imagination and willingness to suspend disbelief more in a book, resulting in way more engagement and way more forgiveness.
Funny how segments of a fandom which has elements of Shakespeare and open-mindedness about it are so centered on that someone doesn't look like the actor that portrayed them before.
Unfortunately, that informs more of my Trek fan experience than a lot of other things. A lot of negativity towards things that don't look "right" i.e. TOS not being Trek because TNG looked better, which was my first rough introduction to that world as a 6th grader. It's a harsh world, and pretty well evident that fans prefer uniformity vs. diversity in fan opinion.
It's actually really heart breaking to me but it pretty much confirms a big suspicion of mine. So, I'm less open and a bit more surface level in my approach.
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