Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"

[Phily B]

I got to say, whoever is doing all the set and background dressing is doing a great job, I'm only watching on my phone and there is so much going on.

 

[PR109]

Loving everything about this season so far except Seven's husband who is not nuanced enough to play a believable abstract villain. He's a bit one note but maybe the writers will strengthen his character as the episodes go on rather than writing him like some angry chihuahua. Overall I rate the episode a 9/10.

 

[thribs]

They should get Wil Wheaton to play Picard’s adopted son in this new timeline. Jack Crusher was killed by Picard for failing to do something and he took Wesley in to be his successor. He’s now the general of the World Razer

 

[PR109]

Clearly mate, you did not watch enough Voyager!

One science vessel with 38 torpedoes (presumably they use a different numerical system in the 2300s - only way they can fire so many) managed to blow up cubes left, right, and centre.

If Voyager can knock out cubes easily then a hyper militarised (Con)Fed would surely make short work of them.

Could also be that due to the change in the timeline then Voyager (based on their renaming approach probably C.S.S Conquistador or something) never ends up in the Delta Quad and so never saves the Borg from Species 8472, Borg are forever weakened, we pick off the last of them.

I thought about how great it would be to see Species 8472 not only destroy the Borg again but to annihilate/nuke the entire Confederation civilization and all of their weapons. No more humans. No more Confederation. Just a nasty blow to the fragile human ego. I'm mostly excited to see how modern trek would redesign 8472 making them look more bad ass.

 

[Tuskin38]

Even MORE pictures of evil Picard’s study. He even has the Sword of Kahless

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbIhPBSJ_qP/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

[Unimatrix Q]

We saw a model of the Botany Bay in Rain Robinson's office circa 1996.

Yep. That scene from Voyager makes some sense, considering that according to TOS the ship was built during the beginning of the nineties.

Thinking a bit more about the issue, is it possible that some of Khan's people never left Earth with the vessel or only later, around 2024?

Especially considering that a Khan decessor is part of the crew of the Enterprise in SNW...

Approximately 30 years after a world wide conflict like the Eugenic Wars is not a long enough time for things not to have some bigger impact at the then current events.

Really think the plot is about the aftermath of the Eugenic Wars.

 

[Guy Gardener]

IRL, if you look at any given main street in America during the two decade long Afghanistanian conflict, there's almost no evidence on the street, that American soldiers are dying.

Ditto for Vietnam.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

IRL, if you look at any give main street in America during the two decade long Afghanistanian conflict, there's almost no evidence on the street, that American soldiers are dying.

Ditto for Vietnam.

Good point. But we don't know if there really wasn't anything happening in the US and if there weren't any augments living there and what they possibly did.

 

[gweeps]

Even MORE pictures of evil Picard’s study. He even has the Sword of Kahless

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbIhPBSJ_qP/?utm_medium=copy_link

Is Enterprise represented?

 

[DaveyNY]

He clarified

Possibly the Alien Species 10-C?

 

[Tuskin38]

Is Enterprise represented?

The rifle below the the first contact rifles is an early Enterprise rifle.

Possibly the Alien Species 10-C?

Too small


The Klingon Disruptor info card references DS9

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/IKS_Toh'Kaht

 

[Phily B]

Yep. That scene from Voyager makes some sense, considering that according to TOS the ship was built during the beginning of the nineties.

Thinking a bit more about the issue, is it possible that some of Khan's people never left Earth with the vessel or only later, around 2024?

Especially considering that a Khan decessor is part of the crew of the Enterprise in SNW...

Approximately 30 years after a world wide conflict like the Eugenic Wars is not a long enough time for things not to have some bigger impact at the then current events.

Really think the plot is about the aftermath of the Eugenic Wars.

I'll say what I always say about the Eugenics War - the idea it was a proxy war with an "illuminati" style government can fit. 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, pretty much every war during that period was actually super humans pushing pieces on a chess board into position.

 

[hxclespaulplayer]

It's the Mintakan tapestry from "Who Watches the Watchers".

"Thanks for the gift, still going to slaughter you though" Btw how on earth do I quote someone? I press quote, get "message added to multi-quote" but it doesn't show up and I have to manually add quote tags and it doesn't show who I'm quoting.

 

[cooleddie74]

Is Enterprise represented?

And there's an EM-33 hand pistol in the display with three other pistol sidearms.

 

[Danja]

"Through a Mirror Darkly," "Yesterday's Enterprise" ... Name drop, much?

John DeLancie is back at his scene-chewing best!

It seems President Hansen has acquired her mentor Janeway's taste for coffee!

 

[NCC-73515]

It's odd that Picard hates coffee - he often drank it with Beverly.

Also, googleing that, I just found this:
https://www.tor.com/2019/09/16/picard-probably-likes-coffee-just-as-much-if-not-more-than-earl-grey/

 

[Gov Kodos]

Picard could have been given a shite Starbucks sugar water instead of something decent.

 

[jackoverfull]

It's odd that Picard hates coffee - he often drank it with Beverly.

Also, googleing that, I just found this:
https://www.tor.com/2019/09/16/picard-probably-likes-coffee-just-as-much-if-not-more-than-earl-grey/

he probably just didn’t like THIS coffee.

Also, after 20 years tastes can change, especially if you decide to give up coffee at a certain point.

 

[dupersuper]

he probably just didn’t like THIS coffee.

Also, after 20 years tastes can change, especially if you decide to give up coffee at a certain point.

Also, if you get an entirely new body.

 

[jackoverfull]

Also, if you get an entirely new body.

three times!