Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[mswood]

Now we know that canonically every room around the edge of the Enterprise's saucer has its lights turned on.

When visibility is impaired you should turn your headlights on.

Or everyone is going why the fuck are we so close to a city I want to look.....

Though in fairness one of my favorite scenes in Enterprise is the 3rd episode where everyone rushes to the windows to see the planet they are approaching.

That's something I wish we got a shit load more of....

 

[Tuskin38]

Hm SNW Season 1 takes place in 2259, Amok Time according to M-A is 2267.

The date isn't exactly canon that's just speculation on M-A part. So SNW just smudge the date a bit, and T'Pring could be in SNW because of Spock's previous Pon Farr.

 

[UssGlenn]

Hm SNW Season 1 takes place in 2259, Amok Time according to M-A is 2267.

The date isn't exactly canon that's just speculation on M-A part. So SNW just smudge the date a bit, and T'Pring could be in SNW because of Spock's previous Pon Farr.

That's exactly what I assume is happening. We just need to fill in the blanks with what ceremony happens at each 7 year interval.

7: mental joining
14: ?
21: ?
28: ? Seen in SNW
35: wedding

We can also fudge years a bit, it's biology so it's not 7 years on the dot (also Vulcan years). Spock might be late in TOS, which is why he thought he might be spared (and why T'pring got impatient).

 

[F. King Daniel]

Wait isn't "Amok Time" explicit that it's Spock's FIRST pon farr?

 

[Tosk]

Wait isn't "Amok Time" explicit that it's Spock's FIRST pon farr?

Not only that, but it also kind of sounds like he might be a late bloomer.

"I'd hoped I would be spared this, but the ancient drives are too strong. Eventually, they catch up with us, and we are driven by forces we cannot control to return home and take a wife. Or die."

 

[UssGlenn]

Wait isn't "Amok Time" explicit that it's Spock's FIRST pon farr?

It's definitely his first blood fever, but there's nothing preventing other earlier ceremonies/different biological events. However, I'm not sure the writers can thread that needle to our satisfaction, guess we will find out.

 

[cooleddie74]

It seemed to be the first time Spock and T'Pring had been together since both were seven. Of course since TOS never says that explicitly the SNW writers can run with it, but at this point I'm just glad they seem to be getting relatively minor things like T'Pring's hair right. It's a victory of a hundred small steps with these producers.

 

[fireproof78]

However, I'm not sure the writers can thread that needle to our satisfaction,

No, they cannot.

 

[ChallengerHK]

They missed a trick not updating Tango like they did the U.S.S. Enterprise

The legs should be angled backward and the neck should be much shorter.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Of course, the Vulcan Seven Year Itch wasn't established in Amok Time. That wasn't brought up until season 3 in The Cloud Minders.

 

[Orphalesion]

More Jefferies Tube action

Is that nurse Chapel?

 

[cooleddie74]

Yep. And not only is the straw color of her hair right for this time but those red and yellow pipes and conduits and that red metal ladder are a joy to behold.

 

[fireproof78]

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[Orphalesion]

Well, in an elimination game over in the General Trek forum Nurse Chapel just got third in line for the title "Most Disliked Regular Character" (and I have to say rightfully so, in my opinion)
It will be interesting to see whether this version of Chapel will be better written and utilized than the original.

 

[Tuskin38]

Is that nurse Chapel?

Yes

 

[Harpsichord]

Spock: Come over, Christine.

Chapel: I can't, the turbolift network is down for maintenance.

Spock: I'm going through Pon farr.

Chapel:

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Yep. And not only is the straw color of her hair right for this time but those red and yellow pipes and conduits and that red metal ladder are a joy to behold.

Jess Bush, who's playing Chapel, posted an Instagram photo of her and the actor playing Noonien-Singh in front of the corridor access to the Jefferies Tube, and you'd swear the set piece was right out of TOS. It's that recognizable and perfect.

 

[fireproof78]

Perfect.

 

[Ometiklan]

Is it even possible to enjoy a purely episodic show these days? Simple stories that wrap themselves up fully in 45-60 minutes... not really a concept considered "good" any more...

Though it is only 22 minutes and not 45, Lower Decks manages to tell great episodic stories.

So I know you are joking here, but it's a good jumping off point. It's never been shown on the show how they make antimatter, but I suspect it takes more energy to make antimatter than you get out of it. So it's a great energy dense fuel for Starships, but it can't be used for planetary power, it's a net loss.

The TNG tech manual says that the Federation uses solar collectors in solar orbit and some kind of inverters to generate antimatter. Doesn't really matter how efficient the process is if all the incoming energy is free from the sun. But if I remember right, the manual says the overall process is about 75% efficient. Antimatter in Trek is is basically like today's liquid transportation fuel (but renewable) - valuable due to its high energy density and portability. Safety would be more of the concern for planetside use of antimatter.

 

[Noname Given]

It seemed to be the first time Spock and T'Pring had been together since both were seven. Of course since TOS never says that explicitly the SNW writers can run with it, but at this point I'm just glad they seem to be getting relatively minor things like T'Pring's hair right. It's a victory of a hundred small steps with these producers.

That was just a fan opinion much like the fan assumption that Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet Academy.

T'Pring was obviously following Spock's career, as she stated that Spock had become much known among Vulcans, "Almost a legend..".

As for Spock doing things off camera, in TOS S2 Journey To Babel" , tarek's wife Amanda makes the comment to spock that: "...you haven't come to see us in 4 years..."
^^^
So it's not like fans have seen every minute of Spock's life aboard the 1701 during his service in Starfleet. Amanda also makes the comment that the 'Vulcan way', " has kept Spock and Sarek from speaking as father and son for 18 years..."
^^^
And a lot of fans interpreted that to mean that Spock and sarek have never spoken to each other in that time; but I would posit they have spoken as colleagues and as needed a given situation at home or in Starfleet no, but they just haven't spoken directly as a father and son might be expected to; they've always kept it extremely formal.

Bottom line I don't think it's fair to infer that the only time Spock and T'Pring were ever together after the initial joining ceremony was when Spock showed up again on Vulcan to go through the Ponn Far ceremony. When T'Pring's image appeared on the Enterprise viewscreen, they knew they were both effectively in public, and therefore they kept to what was traditionally required, hence the lines they both recited.

Hell yeah, if they happened to show Spock and T'Pring speaking together in private on an episode of Strange New Worlds, it's hardly a Canon violation here.