Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x02 - "Penance"
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I wonder how the Queen will betray them once time is reset? And how Picard and company will counter it? Gotta wait 8 weeks to find out...
According to Dave Blass, many of the weapon on display in Picard's collection are the original props.
Neville Page says the big/wide Skull is from a new species called the 'Lihn Zhee'
https://twitter.com/NevillePage/status/1502725406146785280
Neville Page says the big/wide Skull is from a new species called the 'Lihn Zhee'
https://twitter.com/NevillePage/status/1502725406146785280
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Rather listen to Pa Kent than Jorel, anyway.
so someone named Lindsay got a new alien species names after them. Cool..
To be specific, he refers to it as an unfinished version of a non-canon species. Is this his way of saying the name is just something he threw on it, so don't take it too seriously?
You three seem to be missing the fact that Time Travel means there's no difference.
Meaning to ban Time Travel in the 31st/32nd centuries they would have to ban time travel across all of time.
Because otherwise it's not a ban, it's sticking your head in the sand and pretending something doesn't exist like an idiot.
No...they wouldn't. The ban would mean they can't travel from the 31st Century and they can't travel to it. That's what the ban means. That's not banning across all time.
No matter how idiotic time travel is.
Much literature and more human history revolves around people facing the consequences of this behavior.
It's pretty simple
That's T'Poling.
Any changes made before the year 3000, will effect every year after the year three thousand.
Temporal shields, around ships, cities, planets or star systems, is a prophylactic from shenanigans in the past.
The temporal accords mapped out every measure of time travel that had occurred between two points in time that would effect known space, and a line in sand was drawn that visas and permits would be needed for further time travel that would be cautious and with hope leave time unchanged. Massive "new" changes to the timeline caused by idiots and criminals need to be found and cancelled.
Thanks. That certainly makes more sense. You'd think he'd have just said "new species" but confusion can be fun too.
Nope.
Yes, space and time are mind numbingly vast. All those species out there and their shenanigans the Feds don't know and have no control over doing whatever they want. It's a silly plot device like the Prime Directive. It's there for dramatic tension but in reality any effort to enforce it would be a joke. And it keeps the franchise from turning into Bill and Ted's Next Generation.
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Before I make my first comment, I understand this is written for entertainment and played by the shows actors. But how are there always, in every mirror or alternate universe, the same people, physically, which would mean their parents and ancestors all happened to line up perfectly across time even with all of these changes. If one decision can butterfly effect the entire planet, how does this work?
I found it hilarious that Picard's line of "the circle of Hell Dante overlooked" was literally in response to Janeway's coffee order.
I knew the name drops of Dukat, Sarek, Martok etc were for our benefit, but they were woven in the story and didn't seem forced.
Patton Oswalt channelling a sourpuss version of the Matthew Broderick Rick & Morty cat.
"Someone got over their commitment issues..." long second "I'm a rebel." Amazing.
In a weird way, I wanted to see Kate Mulgrew as the magistrate. Seeing Janeway would have been another mindfuck for Seven and it would've been great to see Mulgrew chew the scenery like she did in "Living Witness."
Speaking of the magistrate, I didn't understand how his marriage to Seven worked. It seemed loveless, with no passion. It agrees with some thoughts I've read that he is just a front of this world's President Hansen. But if this is an actual marriage in these worlds where everyone is killing each other to gain power work? Or in this world, where both parties would in theory be trying to be the dominant party, where showing weakness would be frowned upon.
I've seen some hate for Jon Jon Briones as the magistrate, including that he only got the job because his daughter was on the show. This is a man who has had his own career in his own right and yes, he probably got the role in some part because of his daughter, but it wasn't like putting some untrained or otherwise horrible actor in the role.
This was another good episode. I was entertained and even though we know the world will be corrected by the end of the season, I am looking forward to the journey.
I found it hilarious that Picard's line of "the circle of Hell Dante overlooked" was literally in response to Janeway's coffee order.
I knew the name drops of Dukat, Sarek, Martok etc were for our benefit, but they were woven in the story and didn't seem forced.
Patton Oswalt channelling a sourpuss version of the Matthew Broderick Rick & Morty cat.
"Someone got over their commitment issues..." long second "I'm a rebel." Amazing.
In a weird way, I wanted to see Kate Mulgrew as the magistrate. Seeing Janeway would have been another mindfuck for Seven and it would've been great to see Mulgrew chew the scenery like she did in "Living Witness."
Speaking of the magistrate, I didn't understand how his marriage to Seven worked. It seemed loveless, with no passion. It agrees with some thoughts I've read that he is just a front of this world's President Hansen. But if this is an actual marriage in these worlds where everyone is killing each other to gain power work? Or in this world, where both parties would in theory be trying to be the dominant party, where showing weakness would be frowned upon.
I've seen some hate for Jon Jon Briones as the magistrate, including that he only got the job because his daughter was on the show. This is a man who has had his own career in his own right and yes, he probably got the role in some part because of his daughter, but it wasn't like putting some untrained or otherwise horrible actor in the role.
This was another good episode. I was entertained and even though we know the world will be corrected by the end of the season, I am looking forward to the journey.
They don't go into detail on how it's enforced in Discovery, but in the DTI novels, if I remember correctly, there is a Galaxy wide anti-time travel field (that was developed in secret to prevent time travelers from interfering with it's deployment). This would allow you to travel from the past into the future, but you'd be stuck there, prevening technology theft. And no one from the future could go back and change anything because they are from a time when the field already exists.
Or in other words, increasingly ridiculous plot contrivances.
In the basement scenes, the way Annie Wersching delivered her lines...was anyone else reminded of Lal?
Maybe they have similar voices, but the inflection was pretty close too.
Maybe they have similar voices, but the inflection was pretty close too.
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