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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x09 - "Rubicon"

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From earlier in the thread I was thinking how 1,000 years later they’re using pretty much the same two types of torpedoes. We’re not using the same weapons we were using 1,000 years ago. I’m torn between lazy writing or why not create a new type of torpedo or maybe they shouldn’t have gone so far into the future for so little changes. The lack of development would’ve been a little more plausible if it was the 26th or 27th century
Why are they even launching torpedoes when you could beam bombs all over the enemy. Just beam loads as close as you can
 
Major Grin is doing God's work:

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This is an example of how Discovery got worse over the seasons.

In S01E03 they did send the away team in tactical gear and with at least one security officer over to the USS Glenn.
They used the tactical gear in S1-S3 a lot.

Why was the communications officer and the tactical officer on the team? (Token screen time for the characters out of pity?)
Why was the away team not in 32nd-century tactical gear?

It is as if the mission was destined to fail, so no point in making 32nd-century tactical gear for the characters.

I have my own little theory:

Did you notice something about that away team?
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All male.

They all had to be rescued by Michael Burnham and the (almost) all-female bridge team.

The men are falling over each other and on their knees in front of women.
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Men prostrating towards Michael Burnham.
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When Michael Burnham, said that she wouldn't lead the boarding team, that wasn't a smart command decision, that was part of the setup.
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The boarding mission was destined to fail, and Michael Burnham can't fail! (unless it's a Xanatos gambit, like in S04E08)
Infraction for trolling. Comments to PM. Keep that MRA / Meninist "Men are being oppressed" bullshit out of this forum.
 
You can answer this when you get back tomorrow:
Major Grin is doing God's work:
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The Breen attack on Earth took place in the 24th century when dilithium was plentiful and warp travel was routine. Literally the main story of last season which began with Burnham and Book smuggling for a year —which is the time she is referring to— was that The Burn had rendered most of the dilithium in the galaxy inert and blown up most of the ships that were using dilithium at the time.

Therefore, a trip from wherever you're at to Breen-space to Earth is no longer just a few weeks at warp with abundant dilithium, it's scraping together whatever smuggled or stolen black-market dilithium you can get your hands on to make a jump to Breen-space, a xenophobic and hostile technologically advanced species with its own fleet and sensors hunting you down, so warp maneuvers you don't know you'll have dilithium for might be required to escape with your ship, your freedom, or your lives.

Then, while in enemy territory, you again have to hope you can find whatever additional smuggled or stolen black-market dilithium you can get your hands on to make a jump to Earth, a xenophobic and hostile technologically advanced species with its own fleet and sensors hunting you down, so warp maneuvers you don't know you'll have dilithium for might be required to escape with your ship, your freedom, or your lives.

Then you have to make sure you have enough dilithium to get back out of Earth, and to make another jump, and to get back home. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Did the fact that he didn't take any action himself because it turned out okay and saved lives, or that he was leaving it entirely up to Saru to handle internally not make it perfectly clear that he was washing his hands of the whole situation?

Did the fact that both the President and the Admiral have made Burnham their proxy representative on multiple occasions not make it obvious that they're Demolition Man-ning / Into Darkness-ing her and using her as the person out of time who can do the dirty work they can't touch to get things done. If it works out, great. They'll share in or take all the credit (In the President's case). If it goes wrong, well what did you expect from the thousand year old primitives? They're perfect expendable scapegoats. I don't think the admiral is doing this maliciously so much as he's got the spine of a wet noodle. But the President is definitely savvy and manipulating Burnham to her ends.
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Oh gee, what has changed between now and the mission with Burnham's mom and the Kumquat Ivan-Milat?

Could it be that that Booker now has Ruon Tarka, the preeminent scientist of his time (or so he says, and mostly lives up to), reverse engineer and replicator of spore drives, and isolytic weapons rogue. Could it be that he scienced this shit and "built-in" a security field / transport inhibitor before they left Federation HQ knowing the first thing they would do would be to beam them off and/or beam armed security personnel on?

Look at that, I solved all three of these videos in five minutes. I hope he enjoys his three extra views.

You on the other hand just copied / pasted someone else's video, or ratings webpage, or negative review, which seems like 90% of what you do here. You need to make more constructive / comprehensive criticism of your own or else there's not much purpose to your being here, since you've made it abundantly clear that you hate the show ad nauseam.

This is a good constructive criticism post you came up with on your own. Continue that:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-discovery-4x09-rubicon.310525/page-13#post-14045159
 
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Did I miss why they couldn’t just jump outside of the galactic barrier and knock on the door of 10C?
It's the seaon 2 issue again, they jumped to the future to avoid Control when they could have just skipped several galaxies over and gotten the same result. Control would never have found them.
you didn’t.

Also I’ve been wondering: didn’t they agree on stopping using the spore drive unless in cases of dire emergency in season two to avoid further damage to the micelial network? They seem to be using it quite a lot lately.
IIRC, they thought they were damaging the network but it was actually the ghost of Hugh causing the problems? And that was taken care of.
 
IIRC, they thought they were damaging the network but it was actually the ghost of Hugh causing the problems? And that was taken care of.

No, it was stated in 'Saints of Imperfection' that jumping was also harming the Jahsep until stamets became aware of it and fixed it. Stamets references the impact of jumping on the Jahsep again in 'The Examples' when he states that he gave Aurellio and Tarka information on how to avoid the same issue with the next gen spore drive.
 
From earlier in the thread I was thinking how 1,000 years later they’re using pretty much the same two types of torpedoes. We’re not using the same weapons we were using 1,000 years ago. I’m torn between lazy writing or why not create a new type of torpedo or maybe they shouldn’t have gone so far into the future for so little changes. The lack of development would’ve been a little more plausible if it was the 26th or 27th century

Photon and quantum torpedoes still being in use in the 32nd century isn't a big deal for me. From a writing perspective, there isn't really any point to creating some new type of torpedo, because you can write a quantum or photon to be as strong as you want. Also, super-weapons like transphasic torpedoes, are limiting, because you invariably have to nerf them down for dramatic purposes.

I don't understand why people assume that 32nd torpedoes aren't far beyond what were used in the 23rd and 24th centuries. Perhaps torpedoes are purely made out programmable matter by the ship, or a warhead with an energy based shield casing as opposed to the physical casings of prior centuries. Perhaps a single photon is now capable of blowing up an entire planet with the right yield.

The Federation not using transphasic torpedoes and chroniton torpedoes is easily explained away. I can see the Federation initially keeping transphasic torpedoes as a top secret, last line of defence weapon against the Borg only. Transphasic torpedoes would have been a massive game changer in the 24th century and a potential cause for massive political friction. If the Federation revealed the existence of transphasic torpedoes the Klingons would demand they share them, the Romulans would most likely feel threatened and try to create their own weapons or to begin using banned weapons like isolytics. Eventually some galactic treaty added transphasic as a banned weapon. Chroniton torpedoes were probably banned by the Temporal accords and temporal shielding would make them no better than photons.
 
It's the seaon 2 issue again, they jumped to the future to avoid Control when they could have just skipped several galaxies over and gotten the same result. Control would never have found them.
Besides the technical issues, there's also something to be said for wanting to go "home", even if it's 900 years removed from your own time.
 
I give this episode 4 Andys #STTNC.

It was filler.
Liked that they gave Linus 1 line.
Someday maybe he'll be an above 5er.
 
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