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Spoilers 31st/32nd Century Ships Revealed

Then how it is more advanced?

It's fiction..... It probably just is. We don't NEED evidence with shiny FX shots of it doing weird shit just so we have proof. You as an individual want it. Fandom doesn't require it. Those are two distinctly different things.

Starfleet doesn't need an Enterprise.

Thanks for taking away the two little winking emoji's I put in there to make a point.
 
It's fiction..... It probably just is. We don't NEED evidence with shiny FX shots of it doing weird shit just so we have proof. You as an individual want it. Fandom doesn't require it. Those are two distinctly different things.
This makes no sense.
Thanks for taking away the two little winking emoji's I put in there to make a point.
You're welcome.
 
It really does. You're thinking in your own absolute facts. Beyond that other possibilities exist.
No, I am thinking in terms of what is presented on screen, or that dreaded "canon" word. I'm not saying there are no possibilities. Only that such possibilities are fan imaginings, not presented on screen.
 
No, I am thinking in terms of what is presented on screen, or that dreaded "canon" word. I'm not saying there are no possibilities. Only that such possibilities are fan imaginings, not presented on screen.

And since the 'absolute facts' are literally zero, anything is possible. Just use your imagination. It's fine.
 
32nd Century California class
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Fair point, I do have strong emotions towards the J. But, what makes it more advanced?

I never said it was more advanced, I said it looked more advanced.


Because it's larger, more streamlined, and with a geometrically simpler, smoother, and more proportionally consistent silhouette. Not unlike the Enterprise 1701-D compared to the Enterprise 1701, for example. In comparison I find the 32nd century Constitution-class design to be fussy and over-designed. It's like a starship with a PC gamer aesthetic.
 
Disco was damned either way when it came to designing the 32nd century. People complain about some of the vessels not looking like starfleet ships and too alien, while also complaining that the ships that do look traditionally starfleet aren't advanced enough.

What most fail to realise is that the advanced 29th and 30th centuries shown in voyager and enterprise would have been incredibly limited in the types of stories they could tell. Brannon braga himself stated this is why enterprise was a prequel and not set post 24th century. Watching federation starships be reduced to tiny pods that were bigger on the inside like the ship from 'future tense' would have been incredibly alienating and none of you complainers would have been happy with that either.
 
32nd century ships, they're ODD we get. But some of the vessels have grown on me.
Weird is good...
50 years of designing and kitbashing a ship made to resemble a pizza cutter..
latest

Weird is.....new
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I don't see the point in the empty cavities / negative space.
The impression I get is these races reached the point where their technology allowed them to put form ahead of function a long time ago and now starship design is just pure artistic expression. The only rule is that they can't look boring or resemble something that's come before.
 
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The impression I get is these races reached the point where their technology allowed them to put form ahead of function a long time ago and now starship design is just pure artistic expression. The only rule is that they can't look boring or resemble something that's come before.

That sounds like the mythical "25% rule" rearing it's head again. :lol:
 
I'm too old school for all these new designs.
I can live with an occasional weirdly placed 'hole' but the disconnected/floating parts just looks stupid to me.
:shrug:
 
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