Just fix the damn pylons, guys. Sheesh. You're not going to lose merchandising revenue.
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Pretty much this. If you want to play in the TOS backyard, respect it. Don't try to rewrite the basics.
Yeah that's my only big complaint with the Discoprise as well. I like the majority of the Discoprise design with the exception of the TMP style nacelle pylons. I even don't mind the center slit, but why they didn't just keep them straight up is baffling to me.
I vastly prefer it over the Kelvin era JJ-Prise
It's the same universe. If TMP can be the same universe then DSC can be same universe.
I meant in-universe. It's the same ship from TOS, just in a different art style.
How can it be the same universe if no one who worked on creating that universe is involved?
Because the current owners and creators of the franchise said it is. Their word is the word of god so to speak.
It really isn't. Their decrees only apply to people actually working on the brand.
Were TNG era shows a different universe from TOS once all those people had died and/or moved on?
*yawn*
That is the nature of the franchise. Otherwise TWOK is in a alternate universe, Picard is in an alternate universe, etc.
It's part of suspension of disbelief when engaging with a multi-decade franchise. Mileage will vary, but that is the intent of the show. And that's how I will treat it, just like TMP is somehow connected to TOS.
You're right-TMP is a good insomnia cure.
Can you actually contribute something to the conversation instead of just sniping?
They definitely are. That's why there were never any connections to TOS in TNG.
Actually, Rick Berman was there from "Encounter at Farpoint" to "Theses are the Voyages"/Star Trek: Nemesis. So there was creative continuity throughout. With Roddenberry and several other from TOS creating TNG.
Except for those pesky actors who were there and part of the creative process.
Yes, but Gene wasn't involved past Season 4 or involved with any of the other shows. Rick only worked on the TNG era shows/movies, none of the TOS stuff.
Using your logic, once any creative connection to TOS ends, it's no longer in the same universe as TOS.
Doesn't count.
If that strikes you as arbitrary so does the standard excising Strange New Worlds. At least to me. The connective tissue to TMP and TWOK is extremely thin for my money. But people swear at me it's the same Kirk.
Yeah, that's some lame bullshit. People grasping at straws.
They redesigned it, people. They did a crappy job. It's just TV, and this is not a more accurate or "proper" rendering of something that doesn't exist in the first place.
I don't excise it, I'm planning on watching the show. It just not as the prequel to TOS, I'll hold the show accountable on its own merits. I don't need to be coddled by the producers claiming it is all the same.
No more than I imagine that your opinion of TMP is defined by it lining up with TOS.
Rick Berman worked with Gene Roddenberry every day for five years, it gives the connective tissue that he would be able to carry on with the universe.
Good thing the producers aren't coddling anyone.
My opinion of TMP was shaped by it being a poor follow up to what I liked about TOS. I can revisit it as its own film but apart of TOS? No. TMP fails at that level.
