Assuming the creators are willing to go down the TOS route with a character becoming so powerful and doing something so consequential.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x06 - "Stormy Weather"
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Yes, nostalgia franchise. I too remember "Where Silence Has Lease"
I was fully expecting for them to find the USS Yamato.
Decent episode, nothing special. Flames and fire in an airless setting, while understandable from a dramatic perspective (after all, sound in space and spaceships banking to turn are Trek staples) it goes on the BAD SCIENCE pile. Zora is Moira from Diane Duane's old Trek novels.
I was fully expecting for them to find the USS Yamato.
Decent episode, nothing special. Flames and fire in an airless setting, while understandable from a dramatic perspective (after all, sound in space and spaceships banking to turn are Trek staples) it goes on the BAD SCIENCE pile. Zora is Moira from Diane Duane's old Trek novels.
Personally as a kid I hated it because I thought it was a human/alien built barrier which sounded stupid but now its back and I realize it might be gas or something Im ok with it
Do they ? even in a programmable matter future ship ?
The fact that we saw the sparks fly, would seem to indicate that the answer you seek is 'Yes'.
Discovery detractors: "Discovery is too emotional."
Discovery writers: "You know what, f*** you. Just for that, now the computer has to be talked through its emotional hangups too."
Good episode, one step closer to my prediction that Zora will be given its own physically attractive robot body.
Discovery writers: "You know what, f*** you. Just for that, now the computer has to be talked through its emotional hangups too."
Good episode, one step closer to my prediction that Zora will be given its own physically attractive robot body.
It was a power move by the writers, no doubt. I respect it.
I mean, if his body is designed to function as much like an organic body as possible, then his being a synth might not actually make him any better able to survive those extreme conditions than an organic.
I don't like that term. It implies that standalone stories aren't important or legitimate as stories, that the only stories that "count" are heavily arc-based stories.
Yeah, but some folks don't want to experience a work of art. They want to view a filmed Wikipedia article.
"Quirky?" "Extra?" He's a principle character.
Why would they do that? The bridge crew aren't principle characters. The show is not about them.
I think that would have been a legit decision to make, but it seems to me that the writers are trying to set up a relationship between Michael and Zora and that final scene with them on the bridge is going to be foundational to that.
The bridge crew on DIS aren't really comparable to Mayweather, Reed, or Hoshi. All three of those characters were principle characters on ENT -- the show was about them. The bridge crew on DIS are recurring supporting characters, not principle cast.
It's really not. The DIS cast is about as emotional as most people in real life are, and I've met plenty of people in real life who are much more emotional than the DIS characters.
I find DIS's depiction of human emotion much more realistic than the shallow cardboard cutouts called "main characters" on much of TNG and VOY.
Plenty happened storywise. But it happened to characters you don't like, so what happened didn't move you. Which is fair, but stuff did happen.
I mean, I don't think we've ever seen anyone intentionally try to leave the Milky Way Galaxy in Star Trek since TOS "By Any Other Name," have we? The only 24th Century time we saw someone leave the galaxy that I can remember is TNG "Where No One Has Gone Before," and that was using non-standard propulsion and unintentional, IIRC.
Bits I liked. But mostly I was lukewarm on this episode. Then again, I'm becoming pretty lukewarm to this season much as I was last season.
Did I miss them saying they vented all compartments? All I remember hearing is Zora asking if she should turn off Life Support, now, which Michael says yes. But turning off life support wouldn't mean you vent the ship. Just means you stop running, vents, scrubbers, heat or cooling, ect. With all but one crew member in the buffer, the oxygen in the air would last quite a bit longer (though any compartment that is vented would almost immediately loose it, and they specifically mention two hull breaches on the lower decks of Discovery, and later she mentions the ship is losing large portions of the hull). But without anything else using the oxygen on the bridge, would the oxygen last long enough for for sparks and the fire that is burning for 1 minute and 45 seconds?
Well, let's see: outside of the galaxy. We have the Kelvans, builders of the Doomsday Machine, builders of those androids from I, Mudd, Catspaw aliens...the novels have O from the Q Continuum books and what's-her-name from the Shatnerverse books...I saw a fan series (Iliad? Odyssey?) with another invading species from the Andromeda galaxy. Am I missing any other previously seen potential suspects?
Except he didn't say which Enterprise, or which Voyager. I was wondering if it was meant as a callback to episodes of Voyager and either TNG or TOS.
I mean, it's a big bridge with a not likely airtight turbolift door or two (and we've seen where those doors can lead these days...).
What letter would they be on now?
I'd like to say that the shields have certainly improved by now, but given what we've seen of 32nd century tech...
While the other trainees ran?
You say that like it's a thing they know how to do...
It would not only be real Star Trek, but real good Star Trek.
"Fuck! Even in the future nothing works!"
In all seriousness, if tech is as crap in 1,100 years as it is now, it may be time to dust off the old "they're turning Trek into a dystopia" argument...
Competent =/= perfect.
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So there's an Enterprise in this time period. Until contradicted by onscreen evidence I'm calling it the Enterprise-Z.
Except he didn't say which Enterprise, or which Voyager. I was wondering if it was meant as a callback to episodes of Voyager and either TNG or TOS.
I mean, it's a big bridge with a not likely airtight turbolift door or two (and we've seen where those doors can lead these days...).
What letter would they be on now?
I'd like to say that the shields have certainly improved by now, but given what we've seen of 32nd century tech...
While the other trainees ran?
You say that like it's a thing they know how to do...
It would not only be real Star Trek, but real good Star Trek.
"Fuck! Even in the future nothing works!"
In all seriousness, if tech is as crap in 1,100 years as it is now, it may be time to dust off the old "they're turning Trek into a dystopia" argument...
Competent =/= perfect.
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Time to look up dystopia again.
It would not. It would be far and away the basis of Trek. It would be treated poorly, as most different Trek would be.
As you always say: mileage will vary (I sometimes wonder if we're in even remotely similar vehicles).
Probably not. Star Trek's utopia means far more to you than it ever will to me.
Adding to the list of species outside the galaxy, we have the species which constructed the probe which encountered the USS Greyhound. This event is mentioned on a star chart first seen in "The Naked Now".
Though it is not seen in Berman Trek, there is written canonical information about extragalactic space being explored by Milky Way ships. From "Aquiel", there is mention of a CGN Carolique being on a deep space exploration mission in that region.
I just realized the only other species known to have an extragalactic origin are the flying parasites from "Operation -- Annihilate!". They are assumed from within the canon to be from the Large Magellanic Cloud.
Though it is not seen in Berman Trek, there is written canonical information about extragalactic space being explored by Milky Way ships. From "Aquiel", there is mention of a CGN Carolique being on a deep space exploration mission in that region.
I just realized the only other species known to have an extragalactic origin are the flying parasites from "Operation -- Annihilate!". They are assumed from within the canon to be from the Large Magellanic Cloud.
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With programmable matter they could just build a second Zoraless Discovery pretty easy
Fair point, nothing was vented so yeah the air should linger for the fires etc.
To go meta, I'd like to think that the pre-Burn USS Enterprise was NCC-1701-P, like Picard - and P is always followed by Q!
So post-Burn, USS Enterprise NCC-1701-Q.
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