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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x03 - "Choose to Live"

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Much more effective than the first two episodes, although it was still not without its issues. Since this episode had a simple A/B/C plot structure, I'll break it up this way:

The A plot involving Michael, Tilly, and Michael's mom hunting down the "rogue" Qowat Milat was great almost all of the way through. Unlike the Qowat Milat cameo in Season 3's Unification III, it actually felt like there was some story purpose to including them here rather than just a Picard memberberry. The inclusion of Tilly was somewhat random, but I've gotten used to including Tilly in missions for random reasons - and her character works best when allowed to be the "comic relief" in an episode anyway. But the episode actually felt like it was interested in somewhat deepening the worldbuilding already done by Chabon. This focus on worldbuilding is somewhat of a rarity for Discovery, and was welcome - as was the introduction of a new species rather than just showing a familiar face in peril. The episode gets dinged a bit however because Michael's "why don't we just fix the cryostasis?" proposal is blindingly obvious. I understand that the QM warrior was not a scientist, but...really, she didn't think of that? Came across as the Idiot Ball trope - that the writers didn't know how to make the episode work without putting in an obvious solution to the viewers/everyone other than the antagonist. On the other hand, I loved the conclusion of the episode, where she is remanded to Ni'Var's custody and is presumed to have gotten off scot-free. I absolutely love it when Trek doesn't give us pat answers/conclusions, and this had some shades of DS9.

I have mixed feelings on the B plot regarding Grey finally being incorporated. I did appreciate the use of existing Trill lore, and seeing Guardian Xi again from Forget Me Not - both were nice uses of continuity. And although the episode didn't hit me the way that that one did (which is my favorite of the series so far) I did get genuine feels at moments for Adira and Gray's relationship - something which hasn't happened in ages. I'm also happy that this "arc" is finally over and they can move on to doing new things with the characters. That said, I didn't like how they stretched out the incorporation process for teh dramaz, even if the scenes in the interim with Adira and Culber were good, as the outcome of the process was never in doubt for us as viewers. I also...don't know what to think about the implication that there was some sort of "Grey soul" floating around before it connected with the synth body, which could actually sense Adira. Seems to fly in the face of the materialism of Star Trek.

The C plot involving Stamets and Book on Ni'Var initially seemed like a waste of air time, but the payoff was great with the mind meld scene. I am glad that they didn't have Book suddenly "better" when on the verge of suicide last week. This could work as a conclusion of the "Book is fucked up" character arc, though some additional scenes later in the series would be fine with me. Stamets didn't get anything to do other than be grumpy and shoot off technobabble, but that's Stamets 90% of the time anyway.

Aside from that there were various "character moment" scenes which didn't fit neatly elsewhere, like Tilly's discussions with Saru (which were pretty transparently put there so Saru had something to do in this episode). I found these less grating than last week overall, because there was at least a feeling that the characters are going somewhere rather than just spinning their wheels in an attempt to fill up air time.
 
Can't say I've loved the first three episodes (of them I liked the premiere the most) of the fourth season, but I've appreciated the character development and that the writers are now putting more attention on the ensemble, but not at the expense of Burnham. It feels like the writers have grown more comfortable with these characters, and also the actors seemingly get along very well and that helps sell them as a cohesive group too. I'm not really into the big mystery yet either, though I am curious to see if it will be better handled than last season's Burn.

For this week's episode, I was thinking it would've been nice to bring Rhys along (or whoever is the security chief or a security officer) instead of Tilly, though it was a good Tilly episode, and played on the strengths of three of the better fleshed out DISCO characters in Burnham, Saru, and Tilly. While I enjoy how Culber has been utilized this season and last season as well, as the ship's counselor-it seems to me that Starfleet would have separate counselors (even if holographic). I would think the Discovery crew more than others would need psychological help to cope with jumping into the future. I think there's been some missed opportunities to bring in even more new characters and putting them in the crew-to help the DISCO crew integrate into the future, but also to keep an eye on them. It's not too much of an issue for me because the crew that's already on the ship deserves to get the spotlight. And to some extent with Adira, Gray, and Book on the ship, they already have people who can help them acclimate to the future.

Loved the generation ship and also thought the aliens were neat and wished we had seen more of them. I do think Tilly shutting down the engine and Burnham solving the cryosleep problem were too short, but I get it. I also liked the hard political calls the President made and how this feels like they are setting up a future confrontation between her and Burnham/Starfleet.

Though I didn't like Picard's first season, I do like that they are expanding on concepts introduced there.
 
For this week's episode, I was thinking it would've been nice to bring Rhys along (or whoever is the security chief or a security officer) instead of Tilly, though it was a good Tilly episode, and played on the strengths of three of the better fleshed out DISCO characters in Burnham, Saru, and Tilly. While I enjoy how Culber has been utilized this season and last season as well, as the ship's counselor-it seems to me that Starfleet would have separate counselors (even if holographic). I would think the Discovery crew more than others would need psychological help to cope with jumping into the future. I think there's been some missed opportunities to bring in even more new characters and putting them in the crew-to help the DISCO crew integrate into the future, but also to keep an eye on them. It's not too much of an issue for me because the crew that's already on the ship deserves to get the spotlight. And to some extent with Adira, Gray, and Book on the ship, they already have people who can help them acclimate to the future.

This episode had literally no role for the "bridge furniture" did it? I'm not sure we even saw the bridge once, so it makes sense why we didn't see Owo/Detmer/Rhys/Bryce. How often (outside of DS9) has an episode gone by with no bridge scenes?

I think this season could have been more effective if they had some additional "uptime" characters transfer onto the ship and deal with the culture shock/generally stink up the joint, since the core crew has gotten too congenial for my tastes. So far, it's just the Federation president, and a bunch of familiar faces - sort of a "Season 3 greatest hits."
 
I loved the slow pace of that, following three different story threads. Best episode so far.

I was so happy that Gray can finally move about the real world now. I loved his story back in season three, so I was worried that he would just be part of Adira for too long to sustain.

Seeing Ni'Var again was also good.

I loved Tilly's adventures in trying to do new things, and her scene with Saru's plant at the end had me cackling. :D
 
I saw Detmer and, possibly, Owo in the episode. They were seated together at a table in Discovery's watering hole. Look in the background next time you see the episode.

I love the new set. It feels the warmest, the most comfortable, of these kinds of sets. I can imagine relaxing in this room, reading a book or doing a jigsaw puzzle.

The council meeting seen on Kaminar in the first episode gets a callback here, along with a resolution.
 
I gave it a 9.

Though apparently I had to use mental telepathy in order to do it since
the Poll isn't turned on.

There was soo much going on, but They managed to tie it all together.

I kinda wish They had left Gray waking up as a cliff-hanger for next week.

She's on Team Kick Ass, of which Team Science is a subset.

If Team Kickass includes dropping ones sword and getting knocked down most of the time, then Tilly is a perfect fit. :nyah:
(though she did managed to toss one halfway across the room to Mrs. Burnham) :techman:
 
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I'm not sure how I feel about this episode. Maybe I'm just soured on the show itself but this was another week where I just felt the episode was ok. I still don't like the sappiness of the Adira and Grey storyline, even though this week has felt a little more genuine than recently. I'm starting to wonder if they were using Tilly too much for comic relief because it feels like they are regressing her character back to that annoying person from Season 1, even though her scene with Suru at the end was great. I think my favorite storyline of this week was the stuff happening on Ni'var, and Book's storyline and grief has actually been the season's strongest point. I'm also glad they kept Book and Stamets together, and I'm enjoying watching that relationship develop. I guess overall I enjoyed the slower pace and the character development, but there is nothing here that is making me excited.

I think it was the best episode of the three so far so I'm giving it a 7.
 
This was MUCH better. Loved, loved, LOVED this episode. But I’ve grown to find the Qowat Milan fascinating, really do love what they’ve done with the Romulans and Vulcans in this far flung future and have enjoyed Stamets and Book and their burgeoning friendship in the past two episodes. Tilly’s arc is definitely heading somewhere interesting. Culber as always is on point. And the Adria/Gray stuff has been fascinating all season. I’m curious to see where it goes but I’m curious to know that with Ian Alexander not being a regular means that at some point, Gray might go off on his own and become a Guardian. We’ll see, of course. Oh, and I love the Disco watering hole. 9/10.
 
I don't know, for an episode in which nothing really progressed except Gray getting a body, I'd much rather have focused on Rhys, Detmer, Nilsson, etc. rather than the Burnham/Tilly/Saru show. I get it's a TOS/TNG staple (Kirk/Spock/McCoy and Picard/Data), but DS9 showed Trek can be so much more than that.
 
I don't know, for an episode in which nothing really progressed except Gray getting a body, I'd much rather have focused on Rhys, Detmer, Nilsson, etc. rather than the Burnham/Tilly/Saru show. I get it's a TOS/TNG staple (Kirk/Spock/McCoy and Picard/Data), but DS9 showed Trek can be so much more than that.

Not really true. Book worked through more of his trauma related to losing his home/family, and Tilly is working towards figuring out...whatever she feels discontented about.

There was absolutely no forward movement in the main plot of the season though. It's most assuredly not an intriguing mystery box this season, which is different than seasons 2/3 (which were initially interesting, then didn't really pan out).
 
I'm starting to wonder if they were using Tilly too much for comic relief because it feels like they are regressing her character back to that annoying person from Season 1, even though her scene with Saru at the end was great.
I believe that the character was doing that to herself, as a natural progression of her doubts about her abilities and her place on the ship.
She went from Cadet to Number 1 to Lieutenant all in space of perhaps a year or two.
(plus losing her mother as a cranky old sounding board)

It is very much a lot to take in.

She was falling back on her silliness as a way to cope with all the changes that have happened since they got to the 32nd century.
 
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