What does that even mean? Are the ships of the panels supposed to suggest greater or lesser advancement now? Is it magically more advance if it's a hexagon instead of a rectangle?
And how is that not visual shorthand?
Seriously, where are the Klingons??
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What does that even mean? Are the ships of the panels supposed to suggest greater or lesser advancement now? Is it magically more advance if it's a hexagon instead of a rectangle?
And how is that not visual shorthand?
The Klingons are far enough from the Federation that there's no need to drop a mention just for the sake of checking them off a list.
It would be good to eventually hear their fate but no need to cram them in for its own sake.
It would be good to eventually hear their fate but no need to cram them in for its own sake.
Agreed.
Are they? The Klingon Empire has always been assumed to share a border with the Federation -- e.g. "Elaan of Troyius" saying that Elas and Troyius were in a border area where both the Federation and Klingons claimed jurisdiction. "Broken Bow" put the Klingon homeworld only four days from Earth at warp 4-ish. Star Trek Star Charts and all the onscreen maps based on it put Klingon territory directly adjacent to the Federation and less than 100 light years from Earth.
And of course the Federation's widest extent at the time of the Burn was probably far greater than it was in the 24th century.
Yeah, but how long does it take to get there without warp?
They still had warp drive, they just had to use it judiciously due to limited dilithium supplies. And the supply problems are now basically over.
Was that their highest priority?
To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
Oh, wait. That was Conan.
I don't even understand what you're asking here. The point is simply that there's no reason they couldn't feature Klingons in the show if they wanted to. You're right that they don't have to do it if they don't have good reason to, but your arguments that it would somehow be prohibitive to do so just don't hold water.
Of course there's no reason they couldn't. My point is, there's no reason to do it unless they have a specific idea for it.
Yes. Name dropping Klingons because... is not good enough for me. Have a reason in the story to do so.
I don't think anyone's suggesting that. We're just thinking that, given that the show has been gradually checking in on major civilizations like Earth, Trill, Andorians, Orions, and Vulcans/Romulans (Ni'Var), and giving us glimpses of a Cardassian/Bajoran/human Federation president and Ferengi Starfleet officers, it seems likely that they'll have to get around to the Klingons eventually, since they were always such a major part of the universe. It's natural enough to wonder when that will happen and how they might be portrayed.
The Klingons of the 32nd century have taken inspiration from the NiVar and joined together with the Tribbles creating the great Klibble empire.
Long live the empire. Long live chancellor Squeeky
Long live the empire. Long live chancellor Squeeky
This is absurd because TOS looks like it was 100 years ago from today. I do not get how anyone can think that cardboard, tiny view screens, a rats nest of wires, ginormous circuit boards with simple circuits on them, etc. looks futuristic at all. You are in a tiny minority for which the appearance of a show from the 1960s, well over 50 years ago and before the proliferation of the integrated circuit and the innovation that drove via Moore's Law has to be respected by writers who are composing scripts on devices that have more computing power than the planet did in 1967 or by set designers that are incorporating AR walls into set that are supposed to be hundreds of years more advanced than the tools they are designing them in. It is insane.
Good.
Qo'NoS is a wasteland as all the dilithum in the system went inert causing catastrophic failures on the ground and in orbit. Most of its fleet was at high warp and destroyed. Subject worlds rose in rebellion overthrowing and massacring their Klingon overlords. The Great Houses went to war with each other over resources decimating each other. Scavengers now pick at the remains of a once mighty Empire. Only the clerics at Borath are left to sing of the glory of times past.
Think it's possible, since Boreth is the place with the time crystals, that the Kahless clone, because of some timey wimey stuff, ended up eventually in the past and became the *real* Kahless after his time as the Klingon Emperor in the 24th century.
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