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Swearing in Star Trek - Steve Shives

That is incorrect. I just not found it additive to any show I have watched. So my preference is not to have it on screen.
that's exactly the problem - real sex (not the kind that is presented) is everywhere (just the way people look at each other) - puritanism wants to lock up sex: in the dark - in a bedroom - under a cover ... and definately no fun (just to fiil the earth with people)

just look how hollywood (mostly) depicts sex: under a blanket and when they are done everybody wears underwear - have you ever had sex like that? i don't (and i do have three daughters)


... btw, i don't like unnecessary sex scenes (even more than bad ones)
 
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that's exactly the problem - real sex (not the kind that is presented) is everywhere (just the way people look at each other) - puritanism wants to lock up sex: in the dark - in a bedroom - under a cover ... and definately no fun (just to fiil the earth with people)

just look how hollywood (mostly) depicts sex: under a blanket and when they are done everybody wears underwear - have you ever had sex like that? i don't (and i do have three daughters)
No where did I say "lock up sex." Assumptions are not helpful.
 
okay, you think it's okay for kids to see problems solved by shooting up people?

I never said that.

There were several episodes of SG-1 where they solved problems without violence, But some problems can only be solved with violence, life or death situations.
 
you think it has no place in a show for grown-ups - where has it gone? if it's not locked up where is it?

... and i didn't say you said that, did i?
It belongs in conversations not poorly portrayed on screens. I stated simply it is not additive in any show I have seen in the past twenty years. Accusations of puritanism not helpful either.
 
It belongs in conversations not poorly portrayed on screens. I stated simply it is not additive in any show I have seen in the past twenty years. Accusations of puritanism not helpful either.
it is poorly portrayed because puritanism made america uncomfortable with sex (besides having it that is - while shooting up people is okay)
 
I don't know what you're trying to say.

I think there is some sort of language barrier here.
not language - maybe losing a worldwar (self started) makes one a bit more sensible to wholesale bloodshed (not necessarily gore) on tv
 
not language - maybe losing a worldwar (self started) makes one a bit more sensible to wholesale bloodshed (not necessarily gore) on tv

As I said above, sometimes violence is the only answer to other violence.

But there's several times in the series where shooting wasn't their first choice, a lot of times it was in self defense.
 
Then why is the porn industry so successful?

People aren't uncomfortable with sex, it just doesn't belong in TV/Movies when it adds nothing to the story. It's unnecessary.
Exactly. I can have conversations. Its not driven underground.
 
Then why is the porn industry so successful?

People aren't uncomfortable with sex, it just doesn't belong in TV/Movies when it adds nothing to the story. It's unnecessary.
good question - the us have the biggest porn industry, have the most illegal whores and are the most sexually repressive country in the so called western world (just say no, anyone?) - maybe puritanism has got sth to do with it? i'm rather sure americans are as horny as everyone else
 
i'm rather sure americans are as horny as everyone else
Not this American.
it is poorly portrayed because puritanism made america uncomfortable with sex (besides having it that is - while shooting up people is okay)
I've watched shows from around the world. None have worked not are additive.
but those 'conversations' are not to be had on your tv set
Does it add to the story? Thus far it has not.
 
Not this American.
meaning no disrespect, why? you are supossed to spread your genes by mother nature, god, whoever
I've watched shows from around the world. None have worked not are additive.
european shows usually adress sex (i don't fully understand what you are trying to say here)
Does it add to the story? Thus far it has not.
do you believe in a story where normal - let's call it - protosexual behaviour is cut out? it's what we do 24/7
 
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