As Roddenberry said, "No one would care."
Picard’s Tea Order Makes No Sense
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I think the implication is that they probably have. But because people in the 24th century tend to stay healthy and active (in every sense) signs of ageing, like hairloss often is, don't have the same negative connotation they have in our time.
So Picard could hop down to Mr.Mot and have his hair re-grown any time he wants to, but he doesn't see the need to do so. And for the male characters who have full hair...well who's to know that *they* haven't undergone some treatment for it?
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Send people in a shuttle through some unknown energy field, & try to beam them out before their ship gets destroyed by it? HTF do you fine tune that chaos? I'd rather take my chances with the Jameson treatment. His at least seemingly went wrong because he took too many doses.
Given that Bev was able to reverse it, it's a fair bet that they can reproduce the incident without having to go through the initial situation.
It's funny that the only one who really didn't want to become old was a villain.
Well, except for the Baku who are entitled to immortality because Pcard wanted to b*** their leader.
I think that it's because our storytelling culture is so opposed to the concept, because our overall culture has its roots in the Christian faith. Why live forever in this world and miss out on living forever in a much better place? It's like eating nothing but breadsticks and missing out on the banquet. Even though many aspects of our culture have drifted away from religion (to some extent), most of our stories still observe this unwritten rule.
If you ever saw the movie "Tuck Everlasting", you know the choice that the protagonist faced: live the repressed and miserable existence of a girl in the Victorian age, and die... or live a fun and idyllic and immortal existence with the Tuck family. Even with all this counterbalance, she [spoiler alert, but not really] still chooses mortality. And why? Because of some silly monologue about rocks and rivers.
If you ever saw the movie "Tuck Everlasting", you know the choice that the protagonist faced: live the repressed and miserable existence of a girl in the Victorian age, and die... or live a fun and idyllic and immortal existence with the Tuck family. Even with all this counterbalance, she [spoiler alert, but not really] still chooses mortality. And why? Because of some silly monologue about rocks and rivers.
I think there's also an element of "sour grapes" in the whole "we don't want immortality" thing.
People might not live to see anything close to physical immortality becoming a thing, so they make up some reason why it wouldn't be desirable anyway.
I don't think it's completely the "fault" of Christianity, if you look at media coming from Japan (a very non-Christian, very secular nation) they also tend to portray Immortality as something unnatural that no moral person should aspire to.
On the other hand, maybe it's because I'm mildly Religious, but I see something pathetic in the desperate struggle to stay alive at any cost.
People might not live to see anything close to physical immortality becoming a thing, so they make up some reason why it wouldn't be desirable anyway.
I don't think it's completely the "fault" of Christianity, if you look at media coming from Japan (a very non-Christian, very secular nation) they also tend to portray Immortality as something unnatural that no moral person should aspire to.
On the other hand, maybe it's because I'm mildly Religious, but I see something pathetic in the desperate struggle to stay alive at any cost.
I don't.
You're leaving out the part where being immortal created problems for the family and they had to run and hide and the son told Rory Gilmore to become immortal and sit on her ass and wait for him for god knows how long. It's not like she refused a perfect immortal life.
Is it not? The fact that we're going to die influences how we live. If you didn't have to worry about getting old and/or sick you would do many things differently and if even injuries wouldn't kill you'd be much more reckless. Society as a whole would probably be much different, adolescence would last much longer, I doubt the age of majority would be 18, in an immortal society anyone younger than 50 could be considered a child for example. Relationships would also move much slower, I could easily see people dating for a decade or two before things get serious because it's not like there's a biological clock ticking that makes us want to start a family in the relatively short window of opportunity.
Does the religion you've chosen to follow espouse a "life after death" scenario? If so, how is that different to someone who might want to exist longer?
In terms of storytelling, I think writers don't want to make our protagonists immortal simply because, being mortal ourselves, we wouldn't be able to relate to them. (There are some fictional exceptions, of course, such as Heinlein's Lazarus Long.) Our mortality inevitably shapes our attitudes and outlook. So they're not judging whether immortality is desirable, only if it is relatable.
That being the case, it would be nice if Trek writers would be a little more cautious about introducing possibilities that logically should lead to immortality, or at least near-immortality. Though I suppose the responsibility for that sort of thing actually falls on showrunners, as each writer is only responsible for their own story.
That being the case, it would be nice if Trek writers would be a little more cautious about introducing possibilities that logically should lead to immortality, or at least near-immortality. Though I suppose the responsibility for that sort of thing actually falls on showrunners, as each writer is only responsible for their own story.
I think I have expressed myself a bit unfortunate. I do not mean any healthy or conventional way to extend life. In fact, I'd be in favour of a lot of possibilities, because if I had my wish I'd grow very old and be healthy in that old and active age, like the people presented in TNG.
I was talking about the extreme end of any cost to stay alive. Dark science fiction horror scenarios were we'd be something that can barely be called human anymore. At that point of extreme transhumanism I'd be calling it pathetic and not worth the effort.
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Some people just enjoy being bald.
I know, because I'm one of those people. I personally don't want a cure for hair loss...I want a cure for hair existence.
(seriously, if I could find a way to get out of shaving my head every morning...with the associated nicks and cuts that come with it...it'd have my attention
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Somebody told me once that I look like the lead singer of Judas Priest. I wasn't sure quite how to take that.
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