^ Please help put me out of my misery; which show is that yellow escape craft from? I’ve been trying to figure it out and can’t place it.
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Discovery, it's in the episode where Michael and Book liberate the labor camp on the scrap planet.
Here's the 32nd Intrepid next to a 24th Century Intrepid. I don't know if CBS gave them a size for the ship, they sometimes don't. But I imagine that the CG files CBS gave them would be to scale to the other DSC CG ship files they already have, so it might have been scaled that way.
Looking at it from that angle the saucer section reminds me if the Goa'uld shuttles.
I'm reminded of a bottle opener. 
Here's the 32nd Intrepid next to a 24th Century Intrepid. I don't know if CBS gave them a size for the ship, they sometimes don't. But I imagine that the CG files CBS gave them would be to scale to the other DSC CG ship files they already have, so it might have been scaled that way.
Thank you for sharing that!
Looks like the Janeway class is about 450 meters.
I can 100% see it as the same ship after 10 TOS-TMP-esque refits, the last dozen or so probably done in 2 weeks with programmable matter.Here's the 32nd Intrepid next to a 24th Century Intrepid. I don't know if CBS gave them a size for the ship, they sometimes don't. But I imagine that the CG files CBS gave them would be to scale to the other DSC CG ship files they already have, so it might have been scaled that way.
I don't think so either, but unfortunately DSC has muddied the waters where registry suffixes are concerned.
Discovery-A: Same ship, refit. Seed ship-M, explicitly the same ship as the one from Discovery's era in dialogue, with 31st century technology and aesthetics. Plus, Voyager looks very similar, like TOS-TMP or Disco 1+2 to 3 unlike say the Reliant 1864-G (or whatever it was) which is an entirely different class of ship and was obviously a new build after the original died of explodium.
Seems so.
Oh, far from explicit. Vance just keeps it simple, not contradicting Burnham needlessly.
Probably the first Tikhov was a fellow Crossfield, even, given the similar registry, and further explaining Michael's familiarity with the ship and the concept. Starfleet could have been converting those old warhorses to esoteric things such as flying labs and conservatories left and right.
Might be some names get inherited by ships of similar mission profiles - all the Enterprises look more or less alike, say, and all appear to be jacks-of-all-trades. Doesn't mean some 32nd century ships aren't rebuilds of 25th century ones. But it's unlikely they would be rebuilds of TNG era vessels, because those would still be getting successors the conventional way, including in those cases where the names get inherited...
In the end, I can't see Starfleet bothering to upgrade Janeway's ship from nil to J if they never bothered to build a Voyager-A.
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Things like what ship they're looking for are far from "needless" details. She would 110% need to know if she was boarding the ship she knew or a new build.
Assuming Starfleet began the suffixing of refits in the ST: Picard era if not immediately post Voyager's return in 2378, it fits pretty well IMHO.
But she wouldn't learn that on that occasion yet. There'd need to be a special briefing, and Vance probably couldn't be bothered.
In any case, a briefing on the pertinent facts apparently isn't considered all that important: the heroes only get the info dump when they are well underway, in a scene we get to see. (Perhaps onboard briefings, in which sealed orders are revealed, are standard Starfleet practice, and the hero ability to travel in zero time puts a kink in the practice, resulting in the crew getting the facts only minutes before they engage in action?)
Well, the 25th century is still part of some sort of continuum of ship design that covers the original Discovery, as per "People of Earth". And we already got the E-J and might well next spot the E-F, even with the "timelines" caveat.
Effortless modernizing might in fact be a fairly recent phenomenon in S3, explaining why Starfleet still operates antiquated designs such as the pseudo-Constitution. And perhaps Discovery-A is our only true example of a letter-suffix refit after all, and a very special case?
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That's what I'm reckoning. The NCC-1031 was recorded as destroyed at Xahea in 2258, so to keep the records straight and the history books untouched, Discovery is designated as its own successor. Ergo, NCC-1031-A.
But that means Starfleet never had another USS Discovery for 900 years inbetween?
We don't know exactly how those things work. Presumably there was no other Discovery that would have carried the legacy registry along with the name. But most of the time, a name is not burdened with a legacy registry when reused. What does it take for Starfleet to "resurrect" a registry in order to "honor" it? Perhaps the next Enterprise will be NCC-89123, and the one after NCC-458234 will be the one that gets the -F, in honor of the -E which was deemed politically unpalatable for a few centuries but now is back in favor?
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The Tikhov: Burnham mentions that she was aware of a seed ship from her time named the Tikhov. Vance states that it is still operational. He doesn’t state that it’s a new ship with the same name. Burnham isn’t an idiot; there’s no reason for Vance to ‘keep it simple’ for her. His dialogue makes it very clear that it’s supposed to be the same ship, visuals notwithstanding. If it was a different ship, he would have made that clear, but he didn’t. The implication here, then, is that the Tikhov went through 13 refits over a 900 year period of time, and the suffix indicates a refit, not a newbuild.
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I don't see that as proof. There could be a number of reasons.
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