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Arrow - The Final Season
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Just ask John Constantine...
not really sad on this news of the Canaries being axed.
They done a whole Dystopia future, then cleaned it up, then gave there memories back? huh?
A show needs a premise, this didn't have one really, in Arrow he came back and fought crime, this? Whats going on? Whats the wrong to correct? Just a Meh premise, and the main actors weren't that Charismatic to me, not able to carry a show.
They done a whole Dystopia future, then cleaned it up, then gave there memories back? huh?
A show needs a premise, this didn't have one really, in Arrow he came back and fought crime, this? Whats going on? Whats the wrong to correct? Just a Meh premise, and the main actors weren't that Charismatic to me, not able to carry a show.
It's a reasonable conclusion to draw.
i don't think those 2 things were a bad decision. If you had a potentially GREAT show, and/or a character fans REALLY wanted to see more of, then it would work. So for example, if they had Diggle actually getting a Green Lantern ring, and then by the end of the episode whisked off to Oa...that would be a cliffhanger, but we would be EXCITED for that new Green Lantern series. It would be something that many Arrow fans had been hoping for.
Who has been hoping for a series set in the 2040's? Or starring Earth 2 Black Canary? Or a carefree Mia suddenly turned Vigilante? Hmm... no one?
backdoor pilot and hoping it got a series pickup.
Wasn't the first, won't be the last.
Right, right on John Diggle GL. That would've been a way to end the series. I smiled when I saw the GL movie OA in the finale. Berlanti and Guggenheim wrote that flick. I liked it, but I understand why it didn't make it big.
GA and the Canaries ending with William being kidnapped and that seemingly never going to be resolved on screen was a bonehead move. I was with the episode up until that point. The 2040 timeline I was hot and cold on in Season 7. Having New Team Arrow being stuck in 2020 and needing a ride back to the future would've been an unresolved plotline I would've preferred. Still bummed evil JJ never interacted with Lyla and Diggle on the present. Make a promise to him to do better and apologize for the way he turned out.
I watch these shows to see characters I know from the comics, I wasn't interested in following Mia's adventures and her story had been told anyway. If, say, Barbara Gordon was introduced in the final season and we actually got a Birds of Prey series then I would have been interested in watching the canaries on that.
The decision to cancel the show was made months ago because of Covid-19
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1347674967341752320
It's weird that the pandemic was enough of a reason to kill a new Green Arrow show but not enough to kill the new Superman show.
Not weird at all, because Superman & Lois was picked up in January 2020, before the pandemic shutdowns began. And given that the network was slower to decide about GA&tC, they were probably on the fence about whether they really wanted to do it, and the pandemic would've just been the final nudge off the fence.
So we're down to Superman & Lois, Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Batwoman with a new lead, Stargirl in another universe and 1 more season of Supergirl? Was Black Lightning cancelled now or after 1 more season?
Black Lightning has one more season. Then there's some new shows being worked on for the 2021/22 season, namely Painkiller, Wonder Girl and Naomi. So I wouldn't call it the end of the DCW just yet.
I forgot all about Stargirl.
While not in continuity with the Arrowverse, there is also Doom Patrol and Titans. Both of which are getting a third season. We're up to our eyeballs in DC material. AT&T needs to get the fire under their ass and get the movies back online.
Seems like I've been waiting for Flash and GL forever.
Supergirl and Black Lightning are ending after their respective forthcoming seasons.
That will leave 4 already-existing Arrowverse series on the air: Flash, Legends, Batwoman, and Superman and Lois.
Two additional Arrowverse series are also being developed: Painkiller and Wonder Girl.
Naomi is not an Arrowverse series and has nothing to do with Berlanti Productions.
Stargirl,Titans, and Doom Patrol are also not Arrowverse series.
That will leave 4 already-existing Arrowverse series on the air: Flash, Legends, Batwoman, and Superman and Lois.
Two additional Arrowverse series are also being developed: Painkiller and Wonder Girl.
Naomi is not an Arrowverse series and has nothing to do with Berlanti Productions.
Stargirl,Titans, and Doom Patrol are also not Arrowverse series.
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Stargirl technically isn't Berlantiverse, but neither was Supergirl in the first part of the season (until FLash crossed over). We have yet to see an non-painting visual of the Justice Society Flash, so we just might see John Wesley Schipp in there, perhaps explaining his disappearance from Earth 2 has some kind of vibrational shift that depowered him (or some such explanation). And then tie him back into the Arrow Multi verse (would that make it a QuiverVerse?)
I still think the CW is oversaturating things, unless they decide to finally do a Fall collective and Spring collective of 3 shows each. (or add a summer Trimester , so we only have 2 shows each time)
Titans and Doom Patrol should fill in the gaps for DC fans, and not oversaturate the market.
The bolded part of this comment is inaccurate.
Supergirl was intended to be a part of the Arrowverse continuity from the moment Greg Berlanti and Ali Adler first began working on its development.
There was a dead Stargirl seen lying among other heroes in that Crisis sequence that was featured at the end of every show (save for Legends) leading up to the start of the miniseries.
Recognition of some version of her, defaults her to being part of the A-verse. Yeah, technicalities...
There was a dead Stargirl seen lying among other heroes in that Crisis sequence that was featured at the end of every show (save for Legends) leading up to the start of the miniseries.
Recognition of some version of her, defaults her to being part of the A-verse. Yeah, technicalities...
No.
A version of Courtney being shown on Earth-90 (which is the setting of an Arrowverse series, CBS' Flash series from 1990) does not make the DC Universe/HBO Max Original Stargirl series a part of the Arrowverse.
There was a dead Stargirl seen lying among other heroes in that Crisis sequence that was featured at the end of every show (save for Legends) leading up to the start of the miniseries.
Recognition of some version of her, defaults her to being part of the A-verse. Yeah, technicalities...
There are four known versions of Stargirl in various universes that have been featured in Arrowverse crossovers as part of the multiverse:
Earth-1: The 1940s Justice Society member seen in Legends of Tomorrow, played by Sarah Grey.
Earth-2 (post-Crisis): The version from the current television series, played by Brec Bassinger.
Earth-90 (presumably): The version glimpsed among the other fallen heroes at the start of Elseworlds, played by an unknown extra.
Earth-167: The Smallville version played by Britt Irvin.
Haven't they said Stargirl with be crossing over with one or more of the Arrowverse shows this season? If so, we might as well just include it now.
I think at this point pretty much anything involving DC superheroes that airs on The CW can automatically be considered part of the Arrowverse. Hell, Supergirl crossed over before it left CBS, so anything not on The CW can probably considered a very serious possibility.
I think at this point pretty much anything involving DC superheroes that airs on The CW can automatically be considered part of the Arrowverse. Hell, Supergirl crossed over before it left CBS, so anything not on The CW can probably considered a very serious possibility.
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