Spoilers Stargirl - Season One Discussion Thread

[Mr. Adventure]

It's funny how small town this show is, like the bad guys are high school coaches, PTA members and so on. Even the big plan involves sticking an antenna array under the high school football field! The Gambler kind of stands out because he doesn't really fit in with that at all, he should be living large somewhere not trying to bring about a new world order. The usage of Solomon Grundy was just kind of weird IMO.

Speaking of the antenna array, I was surprised at the ease of which Courtney was able to take that out, that staff packs a wallop.

I thought it was kind of funny after the beats about Yolanda taking lethal action that Mike just comes in at the end and shatters Icicle with the pickup truck without a second thought.

Oh Boy.. for once i feel how an outsider must feel when people go into detail about their favorite pasttimes

I'm a Marvel man so none of the excitement and name drops here mean anything to me because i simply don't know the characters, their stories and what has happened with/to them in the comics.

I'm in this exact same boat.

 

[thribs]

I hope season 2 isn’t just their kids taking over. We should just forget about them and move on

 

[Kirk Prime]

I thought it was kind of funny after the beats about Yolanda taking lethal action that Mike just comes in at the end and shatters Icicle with the pickup truck without a second thought.

What's a little unrealistic was that it didn't bother him. Mike also shoved a drill into Sportsmaster.

While most of the time superheroes shouldn't take a life, Mike isn't a superhero, and if there was ever a justifiable homicide, that was it.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Fun little farewell reunion (don't watch before finale)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDxvnrMh0qK/

 

[Noname Given]

I thought it was kind of funny after the beats about Yolanda taking lethal action that Mike just comes in at the end and shatters Icicle with the pickup truck without a second thought.

I actually thought that was great - IE I'm sure some were expecting a BIG final fight ending, and it's a 13 year old with a Truck shouting - "Hey does this make me part of the JSA now?!"
^^^
This and the manner of Brainwave's demise were honestly welcome surprises, that turned certain tropes on their ear.

The above said, I gotta wonder just how incompetent the original JSA was to be killed by these guys since honestly, in the end, these under trained, undisciplined teens took them out fairly easily (given the build up and history of the IJS - although they did take out a few of their own members in the lead up to this.)

 

[Romulan_spy]

It's funny how small town this show is, like the bad guys are high school coaches, PTA members and so on. Even the big plan involves sticking an antenna array under the high school football field!

Yeah, the big reveal of the machine made me laugh. It felt very Austin Powers. Didn't anyone know that the football field was hiding a giant antenna array? LOL.

Speaking of the antenna array, I was surprised at the ease of which Courtney was able to take that out, that staff packs a wallop.

My first thought was what if one of the dishes kills someone when it comes crashing down to the ground. It seemed reckless for Courtney to just start blasting away at the antenna array with no regard to the people under them. We do see one dish fall on the walkway as Courtney and Yolanda are running away Indiana Jones style but the other dishes could have fallen on the other people standing on the football field.

 

[FPAlpha]

Yeah, the big reveal of the machine made me laugh. It felt very Austin Powers. Didn't anyone know that the football field was hiding a giant antenna array? LOL.



My first thought was what if one of the dishes kills someone when it comes crashing down to the ground. It seemed reckless for Courtney to just start blasting away at the antenna array with no regard to the people under them. We do see one dish fall on the walkway as Courtney and Yolanda are running away Indiana Jones style but the other dishes could have fallen on the other people standing on the football field.

I noticed this becoming a trend with DC TV shows - they don't care much about logic and realism if it gives them a cool shot. Now to be fair.. we are talking about comicbook superheroes with "magical staffs", an AI inside some old stype pilot goggles, self adjusting full body costumes etc. so there's quite a bit of suspension of disbelief already built in or the whole genre wouldn't work.

You either accept this and not think too hard on details or you quit - there's not much in between.

 

[JD]

Although I'll admit I'm susceptible to in-joke-itis myself. In the tag scene where Cindy was rummaging through the storage area and found Eclipso's crystal, when she was in the shadows and it wasn't yet clear who she was, I spotted what I thought was a fishnet pattern on her leggings and I thought excitedly, "Is that Zatanna?" I guess it was supposed to be more of a dragon-scale pattern or something.

That was my first thought when I saw the top hat and magician's costume too.

I've heard the name Eclipso, but I didn't know anything about him, so I looked around on Youtube and came across a very helpful video.

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So, I wonder if there's any chance they could convince Steven Amell to show up as The Spectre in one or two episodes?
I was pretty happy with the finale.
Mike being the one to take out Icicle rather than Courtney was definitely unexpected, but Mike's arrival was fun little surprise.
I do have to agree that it does feel a bit odd that these kids were all able to defeat the ISA while the adult, veteran heroes couldn't. I kept expecting them to introduce something was either going to nerf the ISA members or power up the kids, and was pretty surprised when they didn't.
They got my mom and I both when Henry showed, we'd both been expecting him to still be alive. Yolanda killing Brainwave was pretty shocking, especially after she had just tried to talk Rick out of killing Grundy.
I was a little surprised Cindy survived, but since they seem to have set her up as Courtney's personal nemesis, I can see keeping her around. After watching the video, I'm very curious to see where they are going to go with Eclipso.

 

[Christopher]

My first thought was what if one of the dishes kills someone when it comes crashing down to the ground. It seemed reckless for Courtney to just start blasting away at the antenna array with no regard to the people under them. We do see one dish fall on the walkway as Courtney and Yolanda are running away Indiana Jones style but the other dishes could have fallen on the other people standing on the football field.

I think the gap in the field was wide enough that there was no real danger of the dishes landing on anyone nearby. Despite how some CGI artists animate skyscraper collapses, anything that huge and massive is likely to collapse almost straight down. We expect big object to topple over the same way small ones do, but that's not accounting for the fact that gravity doesn't scale up with size. The time it would take for something that huge to move sideways by any significant percentage of its height would be greater than the amount of time it would take for gravity to pull it down the equivalent distance, so there will be proportionately less sideways motion as it descends.

 

[Romulan_spy]

I think the gap in the field was wide enough that there was no real danger of the dishes landing on anyone nearby. Despite how some CGI artists animate skyscraper collapses, anything that huge and massive is likely to collapse almost straight down. We expect big object to topple over the same way small ones do, but that's not accounting for the fact that gravity doesn't scale up with size. The time it would take for something that huge to move sideways by any significant percentage of its height would be greater than the amount of time it would take for gravity to pull it down the equivalent distance, so there will be proportionately less sideways motion as it descends.

Yes but the dishes did seem pretty big in size. So even if they fell straight down, it seemed like they might be big enough to still hit something. That's why I wondered. Maybe the CGI overdid the proportions to make the antenna array look massive.

 

[Christopher]

Yes but the dishes did seem pretty big in size. So even if they fell straight down, it seemed like they might be big enough to still hit something. That's why I wondered. Maybe the CGI overdid the proportions to make the antenna array look massive.

Okay, I rewatched the relevant scenes. First off: The spectators retreat several yards into the end zone when the hatch opens. The largest dish is about as wide as the football field, so about 27 yards in radius and centered at the 50-yard line, so they're more than 25 yards (75-80 feet) from its nearest edge to begin with. The open hatch is about 75 yards wide (the edges are just past the 12-yard lines). And when Stargirl starts to blow it up, you can see them backing away still farther.

Also, Courtney severs the big dish very near the top of its support mast, so the dish basically pivots around the top of the mast and falls straight down in a virtual reverse of the way it raised and rotated into place. So there was no realistic risk of it falling anywhere else except into the open hatchway. Plus it tilted in the opposite direction from the crowd (who had already been drawn to a single side of the field by the fight Isaac Bowen started). So clearly Stargirl and/or the Cosmic Staff knew where to aim to keep the crowd safe, although they were reasonably far away to begin with.

 

[Aragorn]

I thought it was kind of funny after the beats about Yolanda taking lethal action that Mike just comes in at the end and shatters Icicle with the pickup truck without a second thought.

This will be Mike's new calling. He'll be the fixer/cleaner who does the dirty work no one else will do, only he'll love it too much and become the series finale villain.

 

[Mike Farley]

Considering how powerful the Cosmic Staff's zaps are, Courtney really need to start blasting bad guys from across the room rather than engaging in (admittedly cool) hand-to-hand.

 

[EdSanders63]

What's the odds Brainwave transferred his psyche into Yolanda and he will be lurking in her subconscious next season?

 

[Mike Farley]

What's the odds Brainwave transferred his psyche into Yolanda and he will be lurking in her subconscious next season?

About 100% I'd say. There was a Brainwave power SFX right before he died and then later when Yolanda was running around. He's in her head.

 

[EdSanders63]

About 100% I'd say. There was a Brainwave power SFX right before he died and then later when Yolanda was running around. He's in her head.

Also since it was stated that Brainwave absorbed his son's power will Henry be in the mix too?

 

[theenglish]

This will be Mike's new calling. He'll be the fixer/cleaner who does the dirty work no one else will do, only he'll love it too much and become the series finale villain.

I had a similar thought; the kid loves his violence a little too much!

 

[JD]

Geoff Johns and the cast gave a few little teases for Season 2 during their virtual NYCC panel. They gave us a little bit of what of what to expect from Eclipso and Shade, and reasure fans that we will be seeing the green lantern and giggling pink pen again.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Nick Tarabay cast as Eclipso

Jonathan Cake cast as The Shade -

https://deadline.com/2020/10/stargi...-the-shade-ysa-penarejo-recurring-1234602795/

 

[thribs]

Wasn’t he already Captain Boomerang?
I know it’s a different universe but it’s still a bit odd