Because she thought being her Number One would mean hanging out with her best friend and having fun like they did at the Academy.
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x07 - "Much Ado About Boimler"
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Because she thought being her Number One would mean hanging out with her best friend and having fun like they did at the Academy.
I think it's beyond even that that Mariner is always taking a circumspect immature route for all of her skills.
She can't just say, "No, mom, I don't want to be a Lieutenant."
I wonder if it’s possible to reject a promotion in Starfleet...for what is worth, in a current world military can you refuse being promoted?
I know that in many novels Kirk had fought being promoted to admiral, but that’s the only time I remember the thing coming up anywhere in Star trek before.
I know that in many novels Kirk had fought being promoted to admiral, but that’s the only time I remember the thing coming up anywhere in Star trek before.
Didn't Ryker reject a promotion a couple of time? And as far I know, yes, one can refuse to be promoted (details can vary between military corps).
Very good point!
And he was even demoted back to commander after BoBW with no explanation.
Just nitpicking, for the sake of accuracy in the age discussion:
But apparently his first adventures as captain were at the rank of Commander, according to his sleeve braid. Nothing wrong with that...
No. Just no. We have zero information on when Picard became captain of that ship.
We only learn at one point that at some past date, at unknown rank and position, Picard heroically stood in for the ship's fallen CO. This incident no doubt earned him brownie points, but nothing anywhere suggests that this would have made him captain of the Stargazer. Probably he just got a pat in the back for doing his duty as trusted Lieutenant or Ensign or whatever.
We know that Picard was captain of the ship, and had four pips on his collar, around 2354, as per flashback visuals from "The Battle" and some offhand backstories in "The Wounded" and the like. That's the first date when we can say such a thing; there are no preceding adventures of Captain Picard of the Stargazer in the canon.
For all we know, Picard skyrocketed through the ranks early on his career, but then mellowed out and only made Captain in 2354. Or then he began slacking in that respect right after leaving the Academy, and became Starfleet's most heroic Lt(j.g.) ever, and remained so, right until his 2349 promotion to full Lt rank and the subsequent dash to full four pips.
Or then something else. Picard's career remains a tabula rasa as far as onscreen events are considered. If anything, in "Conspiracy" he seems to imply that out of the three people in the setting, he's not the one who can compete with Tryla Scott on record speed in making it to captain position or Captain rank.
Certainly a possibility. We see it happen to an alternate Kirk, and we see Riker's apparent classmate Rice sport the fourth pip without comment, back when Riker himself only wears three. But it might also be that getting the rank is a matter of just working hard and being lucky with open positions.
Timo Saloniemi
But apparently his first adventures as captain were at the rank of Commander, according to his sleeve braid. Nothing wrong with that...
No. Just no. We have zero information on when Picard became captain of that ship.
We only learn at one point that at some past date, at unknown rank and position, Picard heroically stood in for the ship's fallen CO. This incident no doubt earned him brownie points, but nothing anywhere suggests that this would have made him captain of the Stargazer. Probably he just got a pat in the back for doing his duty as trusted Lieutenant or Ensign or whatever.
We know that Picard was captain of the ship, and had four pips on his collar, around 2354, as per flashback visuals from "The Battle" and some offhand backstories in "The Wounded" and the like. That's the first date when we can say such a thing; there are no preceding adventures of Captain Picard of the Stargazer in the canon.
For all we know, Picard skyrocketed through the ranks early on his career, but then mellowed out and only made Captain in 2354. Or then he began slacking in that respect right after leaving the Academy, and became Starfleet's most heroic Lt(j.g.) ever, and remained so, right until his 2349 promotion to full Lt rank and the subsequent dash to full four pips.
Or then something else. Picard's career remains a tabula rasa as far as onscreen events are considered. If anything, in "Conspiracy" he seems to imply that out of the three people in the setting, he's not the one who can compete with Tryla Scott on record speed in making it to captain position or Captain rank.
Certainly a possibility. We see it happen to an alternate Kirk, and we see Riker's apparent classmate Rice sport the fourth pip without comment, back when Riker himself only wears three. But it might also be that getting the rank is a matter of just working hard and being lucky with open positions.
Timo Saloniemi
Like Spot?
which beg the question: where exactly did Data find spot?
Spot also changed breed, going from a longhair to a shorthair!
I remember a line of dialogue in a TNG ep where the admiral tells Picard that Starfleet won't extend an offer to captain a ship again if Riker refuses and that it will hurt his career. The admiral tells Picard to put pressure on Riker to accept the promotion for his own good.
So I got the impression that yes, you can refuse a promotion but that doing so too many times can hurt your career in Starfleet. Refusing a promotion once because a special circumstance might be ok, especially if Starfleet agrees with your reason. But if you continue to refuse a promotion when Starfleet thinks it makes no sense then you are sending the message that you don't want to advance in the organization and therefore Starfleet can't really count on you. It also says that you are selfish, putting your needs ahead of what Starfleet needs. I've never served in the military but I imagine it might be similar in the US military. They expect you to be a team player and advance in rank to serve your branch. So if you refuse it looks bad. It looks like you don't care.
It's worth noting that the U.S. military puposefully rotates troops around, which Starfleet does not. Basically this is done to ensure that you don't end up with crooked divisions, where years of service together causes the bind between individual servicemen to be greater than their duty to the chain of command (police forces, on the other hand, don't do this, and you can see what happens).
Basically, a scenario like Riker's would never happen, because even if he refused to advance rank they'd transfer him somewhere else.
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And Tryla Scott from first season TNG's "Conspiracy" was called out as the youngest captain in Starfleet history... so even younger than Kirk or Picard. It's possible for stand-out officers to become captains very quickly.
O'Brien is an NCO.
Because she's her friend.
That's where the action is.
When I was in retail this was also an active concern amongst management teams where promotion was less likely due to less stores to move to in the area. So the district supervisors would do temporary transfers to other stores to support maintaining efficiency rather than getting stuck in bad habits.
I always felt Riker did want to be a Captain, He just wanted to be the Enterprise Captain.
Like Prince Charles, waiting endlessly for the Queen Mum to retire. 
I can sympathize with this. When I was doing custodial work I fell in love with the school that I worked at. I wanted to become the new head custodian once my boss retired so badly I could taste it. When the time finally came, the district decided to hire from outside. Everyone close to me said that I should just be patient as other head custodian positions would arise, but I wasn't interested in any other head custodian position. I wanted MY school. I never put in for another head custodial position and, in fact, left the school district 2 years later after an 11-year stint.
There was a custodian at my workplace who enjoyed being there so much that when another company got the contract, he took a job with them so he could stay there... and then they immediately transferred him.
That's not so much a theory as directly stated in Best of Both Worlds. Picard reacted to it with, "The hell you say?"
Mind you, I wonder at the timeline where Patrick Stewart moved on and it became the Riker show.
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