What was "The Burn" and what caused it?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by F. King Daniel, Sep 8, 2020.

  1. saddestmoon

    saddestmoon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Not sure if already posted, buuuut what if The Burn was caused by Lorca - and that we see his return in S3?
     
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  2. valkyrie013

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    So Lorca gives the codes to the Interglactic Ai, and they nuke the worlds.. they have a plan..
     
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  3. Paul755

    Paul755 Commodore Commodore

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    it’s an easy joke. But the first thing I think of is a plague of some kind. Something the Federation wasn’t able to stop before it decimated most of the galaxy.
     
  4. SG-17

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    So that's how they are going to explain going from Daniels' utopian super Federation to what we see in Disco3 only ~100 years later.
     
  5. Caretaker

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  6. Skywalker

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    What was the Burn? Good question.

    I'll let the next showrunner figure it out.
     
  7. Locutus of Bored

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    I think some power, known or unknown, possibly started intentionally triggering Coronal Mass Ejections in inhabited star systems in order to take out any threats or potential challengers to their dominance of their region of the galaxy.

    Normally even a powerful Carrington-Class CME wouldn't pose any serious threat to life on a planet with a strong magnetic field like Earth (nor Trek ships and stations with shields), though it can interfere with electronics, power systems, and radio signals (at least in the present day), but this might be some kind of supercharged CME enhanced by trilithium or some subspace mumbo jumbo like the Hobus Supernova.

    We've seen triggering solar flares used as a combat tactic multiple times:
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  8. Agony_Boothb

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    This is my take away as well. Maybe this power triggered the CME's simultaneously taking out key systems and facilities in one hit giving the federation no chance to respond.
     
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  9. Tim Thomason

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    Perhaps "the Burn" is a series of CME's and supernovae beginning in 2387 with the destruction of Romulus's star and extending to Qo'noS's, Vulcan's, Tellar's, Denobula's, Alpha Centauri...
     
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  10. cultcross

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    This was my guess as well - some sort of event which either ended or severely curtailed the use of warp drive. And despite it being a thousand years later they still haven't worked out that interplanetary handheld transporter from the JJVerse. Discovery has an alternative transport method which gives it a chance to rebuild.


    Honestly, my first disappointment of the season. I was hoping for a more interesting take on the Federation as a dying Imperial power, where they could see the writing in the wall but just couldn't find the right Kirk Speech to bring everyone back together. Something with a bit more real world relevance. An external disaster is duller, it absolves the Federation itself of any fault and makes rebuilding it a technical rather than human exercise. A shame.
     
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  11. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

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    I don't remember this, but wasn't the future in Enterprise an alternate timeline where the Federation never came about? And even if the Federation isn't what it once was, it doesn't mean a lot of the core Federation worlds we know aren't completely fine or still functioning.
     
  12. UssGlenn

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    If the interplanetary transporter uses subspace to work, then it gets broken along with warp drive. As a matter of fact, it has to, otherwise it would take years to transport between planets.
     
  13. Blamo

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    Doncha mean thrushold?
     
  14. Quinton

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    They burned the ham. Burnham. Burnham.

    "That ham is you."
     
  15. Iconian

    Iconian Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I also think someone has been playing with those Omega particles in the 32nd century. That said, if subspace was largely destroyed, wouldn't that affect spore drive travel?
     
  16. Nerys Myk

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    Ham is served at Easter. Easter celebrates the resurrection of Jesus. Jesus is the Messiah. Therefore Burnham is the Messiah.
     
  17. fireproof78

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    Which is funny because ham isn't kosher...:shifty:
     
  18. Nerys Myk

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    We stole the name from paganism and the dinner from Judaism. Ham is our only original contribution.
     
  19. XCV330

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    I feel odd when I agree with you like the galaxy just took a sudden turn left..
     
  20. SJGardner

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    Maybe it's all literal. The galaxy itself literally took a sudden turn left and stars crashed into each other, planets were yanked off their orbits etc.
     
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