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Spoilers Stargirl - Season One Discussion Thread

And that's similar to what I'm saying about Yolanda, here. Not her fault, at all. But she could have thought about possible consequences a bit more, and saved herself some ostracization and heartbreak.

Again: Everyone is criticizing what Yolanda "did wrong" ad nauseam, but nobody is talking about what Henry and Cindy did to her that was far more wrong!!! You're all kicking the victim when she's down and saying nothing against her victimizers, and that just preserves the imbalance of power. It's not the victim who should be criticized.
 
Again: Everyone is criticizing what Yolanda "did wrong" ad nauseam, but nobody is talking about what Henry and Cindy did to her that was far more wrong!!! You're all kicking the victim when she's down and saying nothing against her victimizers, and that just preserves the imbalance of power. It's not the victim who should be criticized.
I'm starting to feel like your reaction to my pragmatism is more about the personal school experience you related, and for that reason, I'm out, because I'm not trying to upset you. Believe me, I understand those kinds of experiences. I was borderline suicidal at one point because of them.
 
I'm starting to feel like your reaction to my pragmatism is more about the personal school experience you related

Of course it is, because that experience gave me empathy toward victims and the ability to see when people are unthinkingly perpetuating victim-blaming behavior that fails to put the spotlight on the abusers where it belongs. The way to end bullying is to talk about how the bullies' behavior needs to change, not how their victims need to change to be less appealing targets. The way to reduce sexual assault is to focus on how men's behavior needs to change, not how women need to avoid "inviting" it. The way to end police brutality is by changing police culture, not just trying to avoid encounters with the police. If you treat the victimizers' behavior as an unquestioned, immutable force of nature and only address how people can avoid falling prey to it, then nothing changes. It's essential to shift that narrative, to focus on the victimizers' behavior as a wrong that can be changed for the better rather than an axiomatic inevitability.
 
1. The Golden Age Sandman had prophetic dreams about future crimes becuase Morpheus from the Modern age was farting up the city with dream energies.

2. THIS IS ALL A DREAM! ITS STILL 1944!
 
She was probably kicked out of being able to run because of the incident.
Bad press for the school or something.
 
She was probably kicked out of being able to run because of the incident.
Bad press for the school or something.
From the looks of it I rather assumed she pulled out of the running herself out of sheer humiliation.

Oh and if we're going to be blaming anyone in all this, let's blame her parents for doing exactly the opposite of what they were supposed to when their child needed them, by heaping on even more shame and ridicule. Everyone else involved was a dumbarse teenager doing dumbarse teenager things. They were grown-arse adults and should know better. So screw them up one side and down the other.
 
Half the boys and half the girls, anyone into girls, over the course of the next three days after that video dropped, used it as a masturbation aid.

A chunk of the student body still has her body in their porn library months later.

Remind me why Yolanda is reviled?

She should be in the running for Home Comming Queen.
 
Half the boys and half the girls, anyone into girls, over the course of the next three days after that video dropped, used it as a masturbation aid.

A chunk of the student body still has her body in their porn library months later.

Remind me why Yolanda is reviled?

She should be in the running for Home Comming Queen.
Peer pressure. Being branded a slut. Basic human stuff, really
 
From the looks of it I rather assumed she pulled out of the running herself out of sheer humiliation.

Oh and if we're going to be blaming anyone in all this, let's blame her parents for doing exactly the opposite of what they were supposed to when their child needed them, by heaping on even more shame and ridicule. Everyone else involved was a dumbarse teenager doing dumbarse teenager things. They were grown-arse adults and should know better. So screw them up one side and down the other.
I can understand being a bit disappointed, but the way they are treating her like complete shit is taking it to far. If nothing else, I would have at least thought her speech in her big episode would have been enough to bring them to their senses. She's been through enough at school, she really doesn't need to be getting the same thing at home.
 
I can understand being a bit disappointed, but the way they are treating her like complete shit is taking it to far. If nothing else, I would have at least thought her speech in her big episode would have been enough to bring them to their senses. She's been through enough at school, she really doesn't need to be getting the same thing at home.

She is so grounded for life, that Presidenting would have been impossible.

Oh.

It's 2020, and y'all have a President who barely does any Presidenting at all.

Not that the Earth Two POTUS has been clearly designated as yet.
 
Well since this isn't an R-rated show, I guess tonight's episode was the next best thing involving a bunch of untrained teens trying to use superpowers.
 
Is Beth getting too cozy with Chuck?

He's not exactly an old white guy, but I feel like she could reprogram him to reciprocate any squeelchy feels that she develops for the googles after he rejects her initial advances.

Alternatively, if her entire super power is to repeat what Chuck says, and she could be replaced by blu tooth speakers... Chuck might assimilate Beth.
 
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Again: Everyone is criticizing what Yolanda "did wrong" ad nauseam, but nobody is talking about what Henry and Cindy did to her that was far more wrong!!! You're all kicking the victim when she's down and saying nothing against her victimizers, and that just preserves the imbalance of power. It's not the victim who should be criticized.

Actually, I brought that up too. Listen, the two things are not mutually exclusive. Yolanda did a very foolish thing, and though she didn't deserve what happened to her, it was a bad risk that she took where the worst case scenario did indeed happen.

She didn't deserve it, but she deserves her share of the blame.

However, at the same time, what her parents did to her was absolutely NOT appropriate. Did her parents have a right to punish her and be mad? Yes. Parenting does involve punishment and teaching lessons, but they went WAY too far. They practically disowned her.

If the goal of the parent is to care for and help a child grow into a good person, disowning her for a mistake where SHE is the big victim is terrible. She didn't kill anyone. She didn't commit a crime where someone else was the victim (maybe indecent exposure, but that's a stretch). The level of humiliation her daughter felt was enough punishment to last a lifetime, and there should have come a point where her parents forgave her and moved on. Where was the anger against the people that published the picture? The parents are acting as if they are not to blame.

And months later, when Yolanda begged for forgiveness, they didn't budge. It was hard to watch.

One can blame Yolanda for her mistake AND feel bad for her, especially with the way her parents didn't have her back at all.
 
I don't think anyone here is dumb enough to send pictures like that. I could be wrong of course, but as stated earlier in the thread, never send a picture you don't want published.
 
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