No thanks.
Hoping for new ENT episodes someday?
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No thanks.
In this era of Netflix and all those online services, have you ever thought that maybe ENT could return?
Obviously Trip would have to still be there, somehow.
trip aint coming back dude haha
He could come back if the Kelvinverse Enterprise found a way to “fix” everything. Since there are movie plots discussed to bring back George Kirk and Vulcan, why not a plot to bring back Trip?
Doesn't that open up a can of worms about where to draw the line, though? Why not save Picard's family, everyone the Xindi killed, stop Hitler etc.
What? Trip isn't alive? Last episode was Terra Prime.. and he was alive at the end..
Seriously.. I've disowned that episode.. even the books were like F that..
Seriously.. I've disowned that episode.. even the books were like F that..
Is it any more messier than restoring Vulcan or preventing George Kirk’s death?
They could have always chosen Shran to die/"die" instead. And let Talla be adopted by T’Pol and Trip, considering how the previous episode ended.
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If ENT did come back, do you think they’d used Archer’s monologue for the intro? I know there was this intro that was made and floating around a decade ago – the title and credits were fan edited in.
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If ENT did come back, do you think they’d used Archer’s monologue for the intro? I know there was this intro that was made and floating around a decade ago – the title and credits were fan edited in.
It would make for an interesting plot in the Kelvin movies, if the Enterprise crew travelled back to Archer’s time, only to learn that Trip’s still alive and working undercover in the Romulan Star Empire. And has been for years.
And then the Enterprise crew tries to go home, but end up in the mirror universe that is under the rule of Empress Sato.
That’s two Kelvinverse movies right there.
You should have some optimism, since the Kelvinverse and DSC (and maybe the Pike series if it ever gets made) are the best chances to see ENT characters on screen again. Aside from an Enterprise: Phase II idea.
There wasn’t even a proper sendoff with the new crews involving an ENT character, Surely you would like to see at least that.
There wasn’t even a proper sendoff with the new crews involving an ENT character, Surely you would like to see at least that.
I think there's a very good chance they'll do something with the Earth/Romulan war in about 5 years' time (since the current 5 year plan for Trek is already mapped out it'll be the next phase). It's the one "big" event in Trek history that hasn't been explored in canon yet. And while the main cast has aged somewhat, they could always fudge the dates of the war itself (who really cares if they move it to 2175 or whatever? Was it ever spoken in dialogue or is it just the stuff of manuals and background graphics?) if they want to include them.
My feelings have nothing to do with optimism. They have to do with business sense. I don't believe that the next Paramount Trek film will take place in the Kelvinverse, because that's not what CBS wants to advertise. They want the focus of future projects to be the Discoverse. The Kelvinverse did its job of rejuvenating the interest in Star Trek for CBS, and its time is over.
As for seeing ENT characters again, that's just false optimism and set-up for disappointment. Anthony Montgomery has stated that he does not believe the NX-01 crew will be getting back together, EVER. It's just a fan pipe dream.
The dates have been established as being between 2156 and 2160, both in IAMD, pt 2 and "Balance of Terror." With the attack on Starbase One being the beginning and the Battle of Charon being the end. And both sides having atomic weaponry. And using radio communication only.
We also know that an Earth/Vulcan/Andoria/Tellarite alliance forms at some point during the war. And that Earth is capable of at least Warp 7 by the end of it, since Daedalus-class ships were the main ships of the 2160s.
We know that Captain Stiles served during the war. Whole families did, as least from Earth. As did MACOs.
Romulans were prideful, and would rather self destruct their ships that receive help. So I’d imagine the response is similar in regards to being captured.
And that the event is sometime called the Earth-Romulan Wars – suggesting there were numerous truces and ceasefires over the course of the conflict. Whether they were tactics to gain an advantage or genuine attempts are unknown.
We don’t know what from the Star Trek: The Beginning script is true, aside from there being a Romulan attack on Earth, since DS9 established that did happen – although I can see Shran faking his death to work on the project stated in the script.
If its true that that there were ships using the USS prefix, then that mean there may have also been ships using HMS, VK, DEV, SS, DY and others (based off of known prefixes according to the TNG episode “Up The Long Ladder”) – suggesting various nations sent ships beyond a United Earth military response.
The various Pocket ENT relaunch novels suggest the Romulans attack Coridan, and that the Romulans are supposed to have a telecapture device that they used, to go along with their holographic technology from their drone ships. But its not canon.
Another book – The Romulan Way, from 1987 - suggests that the Romulans were a pre-warp species and used primitive sublight vessels (the same description Spock used) to capture a ship to reverse engineer warp drive. This book is also not canon.
The videogame Star Trek: Legacy suggests that the Romulans were supplied metagenic weapons from a Vulcan named T’Uerell to use against Earth colonies, to explain atomic weapons during the war. Even though "Balance of Terror" already established that the Romulan BoPs actually carried atomic weapons onboard. I don't think this video game is canon, since its a crossover with the other Trek series too.
There’s never been a denial that a Federation-Romulan cold war was underway. We just know that Section 31 predates the Prime Directive – which means covert operations would be happening against the Romulans anyways, even if the Federation denied they were happening. And that Archer serves as both an admiral (2160s) and ambassador to Andoria (2169 – one year after the Prime Directive is established), before serving in Federation politics and becoming its President for an eight year term starting in 2184. Meaning it's likely he okayed a number of S31 operations if he became aware of any of them.
Sometimes dreams do come true.
Is it true that ENT ended because ratings were poor? That does not make it more likely for the series to return but world of TV has changed a lot since the series ended, you never know..... I think new episodes of ENT would be more interesting than episodes of Disco.
"Balance of Terror" just says "a century ago". "In a Mirror, Darkly" is quick shots of timeline and biography graphics which aren't really visible unless you freeze-frame. I think they could ignore those if they wanted. After all, it'd be made by the people behind Discovery, and we know how loosely they treat the continuity. ENT already ignored the "simple impulse" comment Scotty made in "Balance of Terror" and depicted Romulan ships warping around and idea that Archer becomes an admiral has already been arguably ignored too in 2009 Star Trek, where he rose to admiral and was Scotty's academy instructor.
Sometimes dreams do come true.
Is it true that ENT ended because ratings were poor?
No. The ratings for UPN’s shows were poor overall, but ENT was UPN’s highest rated show. It ended because Les Moonves did not like that ENT cost so much to produce and yet did little to achieve the kind of ratings that made that investment worthwhile. If ENT was a reality show with hardly any budget, they wouldn’t have worried about canceling it because they weren’t putting out a whole lot of money to produce it in the first place, even if its ratings were lousy.
Yes, TV is different today, and yes, CBS could produce a series that could continue ENT and even bring back all the characters. But to CBS, that ship has sailed.
If ENT got a S5, T’Pol dad was supposed to be revealed to be a Romulan, making her half-Romulan – which contradicts how human, Vulcans and Romulans never saw each other prior to “Balance of Terror.” Yes, there was the end of “Kir’shara,” but that was in secret.
I think you just need creative writing to explain why the Romulans had warp drive and cloaked BoPs – maybe where the NX-01 had first contact with the Romulans was a covert testing ground for cutting edge Romulan tech under a division of the Tal Shiar – hence why the signature bird wasn’t on their bottom hulls when first seen.
Similarly, while Discovery might be a Section 31 ship in theory, the NX-class ships and the early Daedalus ship prior to 2168 WERE under the influence of S31 and essentially could be considered their ships. Meaning a lot of historical files regarding them – including the NX-01 crew - are classified. Meanwhile, the various Earth ships and their allies were not under S31 influence, meaning their stories about the war are openly available to be read/told.
Plus, with all of these theorized Romulan technologies, I don’t know how many Romulans actually saw combat.
I don’t think Archer was an instructor; he was still mentioned as an admiral. I just think Scotty was just showing off his theories to him and beamed Archer's dog away by accident.
What if there was a quest for the Vulcans which was abandoned during their phase from what they were into the logical philosophy? Maybe about a Century or 2 ago. This mystery has somehow emerged again which could shatter what ENT know of the Vulcan race. T'Pol is suddenly being re-assigned to a Vulcan ship and is advised to separate herself from the Vulcanian rituals. Archer gets word from the bosses to stay away from Vulcan and their territories but is informed about the history of this conflict upon the Vulcan worlds. Archer takes NX-01 to the last whereabouts of a cult leader who survived the failed quest; while T'Pol's ship goes to a Vulcanian planet, NOT VULCAN, to study and research artifacts which explores the historical context of the matter.
Is it possible the barbarian reference Spock mentioned about Vulcans in TOS was a misinterpretation? Could it have been something meaningful and dangerous; a tale where legends are born? ENT could've discovered this secret, uncorked something which could transform or dismember what we know of the Vulcan society in their lifetime.
Is it possible the barbarian reference Spock mentioned about Vulcans in TOS was a misinterpretation? Could it have been something meaningful and dangerous; a tale where legends are born? ENT could've discovered this secret, uncorked something which could transform or dismember what we know of the Vulcan society in their lifetime.
I remember finding this years ago, although I never went through all of it. And it has enough episodes for 2 seasons on CBSAA, if it were produced today. One more and ENT could hypothetically finally get the full seven seasons.
I also think there might be some merit to my idea of NX-class ships being rechristened during the Earth-Romulan War. Although Enterprise isn’t, other NX ships seem to be - and may have received refits in 2156 as well like Enterprise. And some of them do seem like something either the MACOs or the UESN would name ships. And it turns out there were a lot of them.
NX-01: Enterprise (2151); refit (2156)
NX-02: Columbia (2154)
NX-03: Challenger (2155)/Excalibur (2156)
NX-04: Discovery (2155)/Constellation (2156)
NX-05: Atlantis (2156)/Slayton (2159)
NX-06: Endeavour (2156)/Defiant (2156) /Lexington (2156)
NX-07: Defiant (2156) /Lexington (2156)/Intrepid (2160)
*Romulan Attack on Earth, Spring 2159, according to Star Trek: The Beginning*
NX-08: USS Spartan (2159)
NX-09: Avenger (2159)
NX-10: Akagi
NX-11: Bismark
NX-12: Broadsword
NX-13: Dauntless
NX-14: Interceptor
NX-15: Khan’s Wrath
NX-16: Currie (2159)
Source: https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/NX_class
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