Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by NCC-73515, Feb 28, 2020.

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Rate 1x07 Nepenthe

  1. 10 - Wild Beard Riker

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  6. 5 - Full Beard Riker

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  10. 1 - Season 1 Riker

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  1. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    And even Berman said he didn't agree with it, he just enforced Gene's ideas because it was good business to do so. What does that say when your #2 thinks your worldview is full of it?
     
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  2. Longinus

    Longinus Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well the difference is that I understand that Star Trek is fiction...
     
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  3. saladdays

    saladdays Captain Captain

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    It's just that it's not common (or at least not common for me) to hear people use that term to describe religion and still be respectful of others.
     
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  4. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That must be why Sisko never came back. You wouldn't believe the hordes of Federationers waiting to worship him upon return. Even Kirk and Picard never got such adulation.

    Also, it does make you wonder if there are groups devoted to worshipping Q, or any of the other Trek god like aliens. Especially as in theory these aliens can answer the wishes/prayers of followers.
     
  5. AlanC9

    AlanC9 Commodore Commodore

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    Anyone got a link to that?

    Even if religion just goes away, I'd figure that Jews would still exist as a sort of ethnicity. I know plenty of non-religious Jews.
     
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  6. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

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    See also Nicholas Meyer, who made the very best STAR TREK movies, despite (or because) he pushed back against Roddenberry's more "utopian" excesses.
     
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  7. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    And you could stop putting religious people down like that.
     
  8. Longinus

    Longinus Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well, at least Chabon agrees with me!
     
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  9. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    They should have Picard run into a bunch of Q worshippers who petition him to send their request to Q for them, as he's chief contact with the Q continuum.
     
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  10. Gonzo

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    I thought the term Commodore was more a fixed position (so the Chief of Starfleet Security is always a Commodore) than a Rank so that the smart operators could differentiate themselves from all the suicidal Admirals Starfleet tends to generate. :biggrin:

    If not it would sit between Captain and Rear Admiral and is roughly equivalent to the Fleet Captain rank, not that it matters of course as Starfleet is not a military. :biggrin:

    As I said in previous chapter threads it is highly likely that more than just the imagery was shared by the Commodore, in this instance it may be that fear can be passed on like a virus, perhaps even the belief that the imagery is absolute truth as well, its not brainwashing but it certainly isn't what I would call a neutral transfer of information, it makes sense that there would be a lot of excess emotional baggage along with it, Jurati may not have received the full hit as I would expect there to be some aspects that the Commodore would not be stupid enough to share.

    Rios is going to be gutted when he realises he was used by Jurati, she just killed her ex and then jumped into bed with him, what makes it worse is that he then thought it was Raffi who was being tracked.

    He is not going to be happy at all. :censored:

    Once he realises it was her he will also realise what happened to Maddox.
     
  11. kirk55555

    kirk55555 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    This was a great episode, with a lot of cool character stuff and just an overall enjoyable experience. Also, it had the very first good child actor in the franchise (I don't count Nog and Jake, because their characters aged up into being good characters, they were bad as kids/teens but decent to good when they were played as late teens/adults).

    Troi and Riker were amazing, I hope we see more of them. I'd even be up with seeing more of their daughter. Overall, this was maybe the strongest episode of a fairly strong series so far.

    10/10
     
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  12. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Here we go: From 2018:

    There's a follow-up question where they ask about "bending the roles" to allow for the exploration of human spirituality. Chabon's response is "I don't know."
     
  13. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Is he going to be devastated? I wasn't getting the vibe there was anything really emotional on his side towards her other than raw hormones.
     
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  14. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    How many of these non-religious Jews have married other Jews? The general trend is that secular Jews outmarry at a very high rate. Like - the UK used to have lots of prominent secular Sephardic families in the 19th century, but they've completely intermarried within the British population now, to the point that most British Jews only had their ancestors migrate to the UK in the 20th century.

    By the 24th, unless there is an ethnic Jewish colony somewhere, there should be no one who is Jewish - just people like 1/128th and the like.
     
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  15. Longinus

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    I don't believe that there should be a category of ideas that could not be critiqued based on its logical merits. People are free to believe nonsense, and I'm free to call it nonsense. This is one thing I really dislike about religion, the idea that some ideas are 'holy' or 'sacrosanct.' I am super fine with speculating and imaging really wild things, I myself entertain certain metaphysical hypotheses that some might find rather bizarre. But those things can be discussed and critiqued based on empiricism and logic.
     
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  16. Gonzo

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    I think there was, especially the way he went down those stairs after being told she was in a coma by the EMH.

    Funny that the EHM would tell him that but fail to mention that he saw her killing Maddox. :wtf:

    He is going to feel like a proper dipstick.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    And I know many religious people who do the same.
     
  18. Mr. Adventure

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    Couldn't help but think of this
     
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  19. ITDUDE

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    Still waiting for that Space Balls sequel :)
     
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  20. cooleddie74

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    That moment when you realize that Riker's firstborn was named after his Civil War ancestor who was saved in battle by a member of the Q Continuum.
     
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