The fanwank factor.
Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek
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I mean the newest one. The premiere was given a rating of 7.
It saddened me. He seemed to be excited about ep 1 and had sound arguments against DISCO
Then he just fell into the same tired arguments
Mecha flat out said she doesn't like it cause DISCO fans threatened some people. (?)
I love how Remmick is still sitting upright in the chair and you can see his spine and rib cage, like Mr. Creosote:
It does sometimes seem as though people tend to compare the latest STAR TREK not to the actual shows of the past but to some platonic, idealized version of STAR TREK that exists mostly in their own heads. "'The old shows never did that . . . not counting the seventeen times they did."
Or they "channel" Roddenberry from beyond the grave to put their words in his mouth:
"Roddenberry would have never allowed Star Trek to air on a paid streaming service!:"
"Roddenberry would have never allow gratuitous skin and titillation on STAR TREK!"
(I swear to Landru, I've actually seen both of those!)
Yes, there were two things Roddenberry hated with a passion. Money and titillation.
I think the Ent take on the Mirror universe are as good as DSC’s. DS9: surprisingly, was the only one of the spins to have screwed the pooch with respect to the MU.Let's not forget about DS9's godawful mirror universe episodes. I love DS9 and I've rewatched it many times but I always skip the MU episodes. I'm not a huge fan of it overall, but I think Disco is the only Trek so far that has watchable MU episodes.
"The Emperor's New Cloak(DS9)" may well be the worst MU episode in the entire history of the franchise.
they are the only ds9 episodes ill be sure to skip on a rewatch
The only redeeming aspect of the DS9 mirror universe episodes was Worf and Garak's interaction. Beyond that they are well and truly awful.
Give me DSC, ENT, and the comics twice over and four times on Sunday than those episodes.
Give me DSC, ENT, and the comics twice over and four times on Sunday than those episodes.
Agreed. Intendant Kira was the worst MU character ever. So cartoonish evil and unbelievable as a MU leader. I like Empress Sato and Emperor Georgiou much better
Given that 14 worlds threatened to leave over this issue, it's definitely implied that it's the latter. The Federation lives in a post-scarsity society. Not even at the peak of the Dominion War when Betazed was occupied were there people starving and struggling for necessities.
Naw, old prejudices just don't die.
(And you'll notice in the last episode, Raffi's friend mentions their grudge goes back 250 years. It's been nearly that long since America became a country and nearly 160 years since the end of the Civil War, and we're no closer to ending prejudice against blacks now than we were then.)
Yeah, they were....pretty bad, and the Slutty Evil Bisexual trope with Kira hasn't aged all that well, no matter how well Nana Visitor sold it.
Empress Hoshi > The Intendant. It's not even that close.
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Close, but no studded leather photon torpedo hammock.
Agreed. Intendant Kira was the worst MU character ever. So cartoonish evil and unbelievable as a MU leader. I like Empress Sato and Emperor Georgiou much better
They wrecked MU Kira later, but in the first couple DS9 MU episodes she was fantastic. The MU Georgiou was and continues to be DSC's worst character (not a small accomplishment, considering she shares a screen with Burnham and Tilly). She's MU Kira's worst characteristics turned up to 11 and, for reasons I'll never comprehend, is apparently being given a redemption arc. Space Hitler isn't so bad! So she ate a little Saru scampi. Big deal.
Blah.
I believe the Intendant would greatly enjoy disabusing you of this mistaken way of thinking.
No.
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