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Brian Brophy didn’t return?

The two versions are nothing alike. It's like when they recast Zefram Cochrane for FC. They did it to serve the story. They can get away with it because the characters only appeared once years before. It's not that big a deal to me but it would've been nice to get the original actor back.
 
The two versions are nothing alike. It's like when they recast Zefram Cochrane for FC. They did it to serve the story. They can get away with it because the characters only appeared once years before. It's not that big a deal to me but it would've been nice to get the original actor back.
There wasn't a choice to recast Zefram Cochrane. Glenn Corbett passed away before production of First Contact. I can only imagine the riots that would have occurred at First Contact's opening if he were around to be passed over in favor of James Cromwell.

Maybe we shouldn't be criticizing that Maddox was recast but the recast was so young. For Maddox to have blocked Data's 2341 Starfleet Academy application, he would have to be at least 83 in Picard (and even that's assuming Maddox was a 25 year old prodigy like Kelvin timeline Kirk at the time). John Ales is 51. Maybe they should have cast Patrick's X-Men buddy Magneto, Ian McKellen, to be an age appropriate Maddox.
 
There wasn't a choice to recast Zefram Cochrane. Glenn Corbett passed away before production of First Contact. I can only imagine the riots that would have occurred at First Contact's opening if he were around to be passed over in favor of James Cromwell.

Maybe we shouldn't be criticizing that Maddox was recast but the recast was so young. For Maddox to have blocked Data's 2341 Starfleet Academy application, he would have to be at least 83 in Picard (and even that's assuming Maddox was a 25 year old prodigy like Kelvin timeline Kirk at the time). John Ales is 51. Maybe they should have cast Patrick's X-Men buddy Magneto, Ian McKellen, to be an age appropriate Maddox.

They wouldn't have cast Corbett anyway. He'd have been too old and I doubt he could play Cochrane the way the writers of FC intended him to be.

Maybe Maddox has good genes.
 
The two versions are nothing alike.

Do you act the same way you did 34 years ago?

Maybe we shouldn't be criticizing that Maddox was recast but the recast was so young. For Maddox to have blocked Data's 2341 Starfleet Academy application, he would have to be at least 83 in Picard (and even that's assuming Maddox was a 25 year old prodigy like Kelvin timeline Kirk at the time). John Ales is 51.

Yeah, the actual math seems very off, especially if Jurati is supposed to be relatively the same age as Alison Pill (34). I think they just forgot about the Academy application thing.
 
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And I doubt you would have even known any of that yourself if you hadn’t had the benefit of meeting him in person and having him tell that to you.
the musical was big news on trekmovie.com and many other trek news sites. I also saw it back in 2016.

Also, who’s to say he wasn’t asked? Perhaps he was and he declined?
It may very well be that Brophy is happy doing what he is doing now and wasn't keen on disrupting his life for what was a role on a single episode.
Maybe they offered it to him and he declined because he didn't want to grow a giant beard.
he made the impression that he wasn't asked

I don't know you from Adam, you might even be Adam; I've no idea. An implication to somebody on the internet that I don't know who says they spoke to him about it isn't something I can base my opinions on.
what if i told you I'm Eve? :p (I don't understand the Adam reference)
picture here: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/a-certain-daystrom-cybernetics-expert.302915/

Did anyone start googling Bruce Maddox when this show started? I couldn’t remember who he was even though the name was vaguely familiar.
I knew him cause I've seen the episode many times
 
I say we recast Picard with Brian Brophy for season 2. Patrick Stewart can then play Picard's dog Number 1 in a performance of a life time. Never have you seen so much pure and raw emotion displayed with no human language used and only barks and growls in a very elegant way with the English accent given them levels of depth never seen before from a vocal dog.


Jason
 
The novel "The Last Best Hope" features a pretty significant role for Maddox and does tie into what he was doing after "The Measure of a Man" a bit more and how it ties into Picard.

It bridges the two pretty well.

Okay, thanks for the recommendation - maybe I will read it, when "Cross Cult" publish it in Germany. My critique against the producer of the TV show still remains: As the book surely was written after they decided to use Maddox in the series, Una filled a whole, they created with this act.
 
I'm one who really doesn't like recasting but I also take things on a case by case basis.

I expected to see an older Brian Brophy and when Maddox turned up I assumed it was Brophy. I've never seen him in anything else, but Maddox had been namedropped in other episodes and novels. It was a surprise to notice a new name in the closing credits and I raced to IMDb. Great recasting!

(I also assumed I was seeing the Icheb I knew, which was puzzling because that VGR actor had been cagey on Facebook a few months ago when his fans were pumping for Manu to get cast in next year's "Picard". A powerful, brief scene and maybe just as well he wasn't in it.)

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Seriously though I guess because Maddox had a build up and Saavik didn’t.

Actually, fan anticipation of Saavik's return in ST III was huge. The fan newsletters were full of speculation about how Saavik would replace Spock - and Alley and Butrick were mooted to star in a series of telemovies if Shatner decided no more and if Spock stayed dead.
 
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he made the impression that he wasn't asked

Hmm, ok, that's a bit disappointing. Since his time on the show is apparently rather short I won't sweat it too much. But it's usually nice, if possible, to get the original actor to reprise a role IMO.

If the actor passed away, or asks for too much money, or simply unwilling to do it that's one thing. But if an actor is available and willing to play then why not?
 
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