Yes. Not sure its derivation given the DND keeps changing what anything about it is called every few years.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x04 - "Absolute Candor"
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Yes. Not sure its derivation given the DND keeps changing what anything about it is called every few years.
Of course he could ask Crusher to do that. Why wouldnt he be ok with asking Crusher? Of course, it ultimately didnt matter since Clancy declined the request anyway, for other reasons.
I did not say they hate him. I am referring to an amazingly dumb line that, since he cannot ask the people he knows that would do it out of loyalty, he therefore needs to ask those who hate him. I didnt write that line. They did. And it is dumb, lazy writing. And if you buy that he "Abandoned" Salty Raffi and the nuns, why make them the ones he needs to ask favors from? He is ok if Raffi risks herself but not TNG ppl? Why is that exactly? Oh, right! She wouldnt do it out of loyalty...because that is very important. Huh?
Will it become clearer when we see more of them? I certainly hope so. Time will tell.
There could be any number of reasons for Picard to call another doctor...Beverly could easily be off-planet somewhere. And we met a past acquaintance from a different chapter of Picard's past, his many years on the Stargazer.
One could just as well ask why he doesn't go looking up more old crew from the Stargazer...but nobody does, because we don't know them.
One could just as well ask why he doesn't go looking up more old crew from the Stargazer...but nobody does, because we don't know them.
A cheesy film but fun if not taken seriously. Kate Mulgrew back in her early days. My brother used to collect the novels. Never read them myself but it was a long series.
How many times do people have to tell you that he didn't even expect Raffi to come with him on the ship? It was right there in the episode. Instead of going around and around in circles here, you may want to invest 45 minutes in rewatching the episode.
Not really. I actually had 17 notifications when I signed in. All from very, very persistent people arguing against my position. I only answered one of them. To avoid repetitive answers. Not sure how I am the one who goes on and on, over and over, when every one of these is a response post to others. Apparently the people responding dont mind going on and on and on as well.
He may have different reasons for why he didn't call up the old Enterprise crew, but he decided not to go into detail with who he was talking to. It may have been that he was giving them an answer they wanted to hear. Why is he happy about Raffi coming along? Maybe because he likes seeing her with a sense of purpose again and not rotting her life away in the Vasquez rocks. maybe he found he liked the nuns a lot and figured given his cause, they'd jump at the chance. And one of them ended up doing just that. As a fictional character in a show for grown ups he doesn't have to spell it out to us like we're schoolchildren. He can also lie to people or not tell them the whole truth or do things that are motivated by his brain condition without announcing to the audience. I'm fine with that. I do not need Star Trek to be didactic entertainment for kids in grade 4. it can turn out as ambiguous as Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name Trilogy as far as I am concerned.
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Its worth watching just for Joel Grey's performance. He just about completely stole the film.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m afraid of.
Give Elnor more of Chiun's personality. The look on Picard's face as he explains assassination as the highest form of public service.
Rios --> He's getting paid. He's providing the ship and he's going along with the mission. Money talks. Or Latinum. Or Credits. You get the idea.
Musiker --> Short Answer: "It's Complicated". Long Answer: She knows Rios. She's up-and-down because of drug abuse. But knows more about Romulan Intelligence than anyone Picard knows. She says she's only going to with them to get to Freecloud. Eventually she's going to change her mind. Everyone knows this. But, for now, she's just hitching a ride. Or so she says. She wants to help Picard on some level, but doesn't want to get burned again on another.
Jurati --> She asked to come along. And she's an expert in artificial intelligence. Whether or not she wanted to on her own or was manipulated by Oh remains to be seen. She's probably most likely not even aware of it, if she was manipulated.
Elnor --> He found Picard's cause to be a lost cause, he's a skilled martial artist, and he would've been killed if he stayed on that Romulan colony (I don't remember its name).
Seven --> No idea. Picard owes her a new ship after she saved them. She might end up stuck along for the ride or decide to stay. Who knows? But she's an Ex-Borg and they'll be heading straight for a Borg Cube.
This is an adventure where they keep picking up more people along the way. Ever seen the film Bonnie & Clyde? It's sort of like that. If you haven't, they slowly picked up more people along the way on their hi-jinks.
Musiker --> Short Answer: "It's Complicated". Long Answer: She knows Rios. She's up-and-down because of drug abuse. But knows more about Romulan Intelligence than anyone Picard knows. She says she's only going to with them to get to Freecloud. Eventually she's going to change her mind. Everyone knows this. But, for now, she's just hitching a ride. Or so she says. She wants to help Picard on some level, but doesn't want to get burned again on another.
Jurati --> She asked to come along. And she's an expert in artificial intelligence. Whether or not she wanted to on her own or was manipulated by Oh remains to be seen. She's probably most likely not even aware of it, if she was manipulated.
Elnor --> He found Picard's cause to be a lost cause, he's a skilled martial artist, and he would've been killed if he stayed on that Romulan colony (I don't remember its name).
Seven --> No idea. Picard owes her a new ship after she saved them. She might end up stuck along for the ride or decide to stay. Who knows? But she's an Ex-Borg and they'll be heading straight for a Borg Cube.
This is an adventure where they keep picking up more people along the way. Ever seen the film Bonnie & Clyde? It's sort of like that. If you haven't, they slowly picked up more people along the way on their hi-jinks.
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yeah, because life is so much easier when nobody dares to challenge nonsense. that also means one can be right all the time, doesn't it?
He did want Raffi to come. That was the point of going to see her. He wanted a pilot and a ship. She is a pilot with a ship. She offers him the name of Rios rather than herself and her own ship. But not because he asked for a different name and ship. Yes, he says he needed her mind, which is not the same thing as not wanting her to come. If anything, that is definitely wanting her to come. Even coming to her with this, could risk her life. He seemed ok with that. But this idea that he clearly did not want her to come is nonsense.
Well, challenging nonsense was exactly what I was doing. We are all wrong some of the time. This was not one of those times for me. But, opinions differ.
she's got a ship? i must have missed that. he did not expect her to come (that's diferent).
he wanted one of those nuns, true. i didn't see him asking for 'the boy'. if he wanted a boy he might have asked wesley.
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when everybody is against you it's either a conspiracy or most likely you're wrong.
Well Elfnor can kick ass and take names. Wesley would be useful for other things. I can see wanting some people who can crack skulls, win bar fights and take out Zhat Vash agents. Always handy to have people who can do that. Laris would seem to be a great addition though. She is obviously wasted watching the grapes.
She specifically complains that he came to her because he thought she was the type of person who would know an off the book pilot with an unregistered ship. He didn't expect her to come along, but yes he is happy she did. And how their relationship works appear to be they both know that she's her best self when she's working for him. So despite any lingering resentments, I think she wants to be her best self, and while I think Picard might feel he's taking advantage of her in this way, he also is happy for her to be back in that kind of role that she gets purpose out of being in. This is how I look at it. And I see it as reflecting on his own statement of going home to wait to die and he saw her in the same kind of state he was in. Interestingly enough, Elnor was also in a kind of wait to die state which Picard coming along is allowing him to be pulled out of as well along with Rios and Agnes. They were all in this limbo in their lives and Picard coming along to become an enabler for them to live, even though it might get them killed as well.
