USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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The producers absolutely messed this one up...the Eaves concept one was going to be the Enterprise in Discovery as evidence by the fact that a significant amount of work had already gone into making displays and infographics for the show that show the straight pylon version.
It was the proverbial 11th hour decision that changed her into the Phase 1.5 version we have
It was the proverbial 11th hour decision that changed her into the Phase 1.5 version we have
Your theory would would mean those displays for made for Season 1, not 2. But we didn't see them in Season 1, only Season 2.
I think the art team were just given the wrong assets or used the wrong assets.
They were produced in Season 1 however...lead times means that a ton of work would need to be done months before an episode actually airs
The orthographic images on those displays is from a concept 3D model one of Eaves art buddies made, it wasn't a model made by the show's VFX team. You can see it in the Eaglemoss booklet with caption.
I don't think those displays were made during Season 1, there's no evidence of that.
I don't think those displays were made during Season 1, there's no evidence of that.
Thanks for posting these. I find this version far sharper than the actual version we got.
thank the stars they did the angled pylons looks way better than the straight one
They do look nice, but they don't fit the lineage. I'm glad they didn't go 100% TOS. Too 60's for me. But the straight pylons would've made much more sense, even with the split. They could've left the angled pylons for the TMP refit as before.
I hate to disagree, because I absolutely love the TOS Enterprise, but in terms of design lineage, she's definitely the "odd man out". If you put the "Discoprise" with its slanted pylons between the NX-01 and the refit Constitution, it definitely works to show a solid lineage.
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Just something whipped up in two minutes. I hate to say, but the old girl sticks out like a sore thumb.
Just something whipped up in two minutes. I hate to say, but the old girl sticks out like a sore thumb.
I'm not going to disagree with that, because it's a good point. But we had the TOS Enterprise in there, and with the updated version of it on DSC, I would've liked the straight pylons we saw on the display. I think it was an unnecessary change along with those damn windows/lights on the saucer.
As it stands the DSC Enterprise doesn't match with the other DSC ships anyway, so that's not really a concern.
I liked the TOS Enterprise, but it was designed with 1960's TV quality in mind. DSC could've been truer to the proportions and shape, while still giving it the detail necessary for 2019 era HD TV's.
This is one of my favorite shots from DSC. You can't see the angle of the pylons, or the saucer windows/lights. It's the same Enterprise from TOS, just prettier with better detail.
Nice angle, unfortunately it is really the only one that reminds me of the original.
I've never said that it should've been brought forward to Discovery completely unchanged. The fact that I embrace the earlier Eaves version should tell people that. The version we see may fit better in the "design lineage" but it loses what makes it special.
Moving forward, we've lost a bit of history on our TV screens. To some folks, that is no big deal. To me, it is just the same as completely tossing the Enterprise-D or Deep Space Nine. Settings that made the shows feel unique.
For me, the 1st Eaves version still has those windows I don't like, but I don't really get upset about any of the changes. I do scratch my head a little as to why those changes were made. Not sure anyone really knows one way or the other.
And they're really minor changes when you think about them. Angled pylons, a row of windows/lights, light nacelle grilles, a bigger impulse engine section.
This angle is another good one, but darker. Again, might as well be the TOS E with a better looking skin.
This one is cool too. It shows the torpedo tubes like we never saw them on TOS, plus the lower phasers.
Depends on where you're viewing them from. From my perspective, the angled pylons just make it look more like other ships, losing something that made the original continue to stand out. Then there's the fact they shortened the neck and pylons. To give it a more aggressive look.
To me, the TOS version is the NCC-1701, anything else is just a pretender to the throne.
I would argue that the "Discoprise" was very much designed to look like an intermediate step between the NX and the refit.
It actually wasn't. At least by the person that created it. He originally gave us the straight pylon version. The change was made by the production team.
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