Point taken.
Did you ever see the episode where Riker has to liberate the planet with the amazon women and the effete men? "Angel One". On the planet it's the men wearing the chest-revealing outfits. Riker was quite the good sport.
1960's and risqué clothes?
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Point taken.
Did you ever see the episode where Riker has to liberate the planet with the amazon women and the effete men? "Angel One". On the planet it's the men wearing the chest-revealing outfits. Riker was quite the good sport.
That and Picard in his riding outfit, but those were one offs.
It could be likely that Riker snuck or replicated some of those outfits for his free time attire. But we didn't get to see them.
In his quarters, as we see often. His necklines are even more plunging than Trois, off or on duty.
It’s about three inches of cleavage at best, it’s really not scandalous. Are there different styles and or standards for men and women in clothing? Yes.
Were they trying to appeal to certain viewers? Again yes.
But there wasn’t a massive imbalance, definitely by the standards of the times, for Male and female clothing on the show (which is to say they were all perfectly normal for the time) (Marinas necklines were more plunging at award shows.)
Personally, I am not down with the scarlet letter crowds, the slut shamers, those who would find some secular version of the birqa to be desirable...or so it would seem. But I sometimes think I inhabited an alien world rather than 90s London, given the pearl clutching that occurs these days.
She's exercising. Like presumably all bipedal humanoids, she has a butt. It would be weirder if she didn't. They should do an episode about the buttless people of Slendercon V and their desperate need for beanbag technology.
Besides, what's wrong with a little cheesecake? What kind of excersize burqua would have been proper for them to wear?
I'd have been cool with the scene if she had been exercising with say Worf, who was also wearing spandex pantyhose and a dance leotard. Then the scene would have not ever reached my radar.
When we do see Worf exercising, he wears a sort of Karate outfit. Boring.
You have to wait for DS9 for Worf Cheesecake
Deep cut.
The Trip-T'Pol skin scene was a pure exploitation play, of the most contemptible kind: safe and timid. If your overall policy is to make a family-friendly, traditional Star Trek series (a fine choice I support), then don't waste my time pretending to push the envelope. Because you're not.
Weren’t the female crew emembers in his class wearing the same outfit?
Finally saw one of what I guess are the earlier episodes, where the women wear reasonable uniforms.
As far as being liberating, the outfits with the pants and full sized tops, much more equal footing with the men.
I only caught the ending where Kirk was fighting with a man and to a lesser extent a woman who were somewhat all powerful. The man was trying to throw Kirk into an open grave.
The woman was injured and knocked out,
But, come to find out that she's a doctor!!
Knock me over with a feather!
Kirk prevailed in the end as the other guy fell into the open grave and a giant rock fell on top of the grave.
It looked like a cool episode, less objectification of women from what I saw.
I wish I had watched the whole episode.
As far as being liberating, the outfits with the pants and full sized tops, much more equal footing with the men.
I only caught the ending where Kirk was fighting with a man and to a lesser extent a woman who were somewhat all powerful. The man was trying to throw Kirk into an open grave.
The woman was injured and knocked out,
But, come to find out that she's a doctor!!
Knock me over with a feather!
Kirk prevailed in the end as the other guy fell into the open grave and a giant rock fell on top of the grave.
It looked like a cool episode, less objectification of women from what I saw.
I wish I had watched the whole episode.
That would be "Where No Man Has Gone Before." Dr. Dehner was a psychiatrist.Finally saw one of what I guess are the earlier episodes, where the women wear reasonable uniforms.
As far as being liberating, the outfits with the pants and full sized tops, much more equal footing with the men.
I only caught the ending where Kirk was fighting with a man and to a lesser extent a woman who were somewhat all powerful. The man was trying to throw Kirk into an open grave.
The woman was injured and knocked out,
But, come to find out that she's a doctor!!
Knock me over with a feather!
Kirk prevailed in the end as the other guy fell into the open grave and a giant rock fell on top of the grave.
It looked like a cool episode, less objectification of women from what I saw.
I wish I had watched the whole episode.
Kor
Wear what's appropriate for the exercise/training you're doing. Doing Jazzercise? Wear spandex. Doing martial arts? Wear a gi. Unlike operating the ship, it's not rocket science.
Oh, you would have found plenty enough to complain about.
I know, I know, it was okay or maybe still is okay to objectify women.
So, I suppose I should just shut the hell up.
Well there is some disagreement as to whether the women in question are actually being objectified....
And when they are, no, that's not good. And yet you might actually find other things to like about the episode anyway. If you looked past all the objectification, that is.
I like some of the episodes. They are interesting. The only one that was just over the top, was 'Spock's Brain'.
Talk about crazy, man, crazy.
You haven't seen Plato's Stepchildren yet then, Nakita?
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JB
Grace Lee Whitney had to wear Sally Kellerman's trousers in the publicity stills before TOS started shooting. She went straight to Gene Roddenberry and Willian Ware Theiss and demanded a uniform to show off her legs.
Someone mentioned that the other day, Therin!
JB
JB
Someone mentioned that the other day, Therin!
JB
Yes, me, but it seemed worth repeating.
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