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Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

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It lost the top spot because of self inflicted wounds.

That’s all a matter of opinion. I liked TFA and TLJ and felt that TRoS was weak albeit enjoyable. I find Rogue One to be mostly garbage and Solo to be fun if not ultimately forgettable. The Mandalorian started strong but certainly had some issues as it went along. And I am excited for TCW, Cassian and Obi-Wan. I see no self-inflicted wounds here. Of course you’ll just attack my opinion and tell me I’m wrong so I really don’t know why I’m bothering.
 
That’s all a matter of opinion. I liked TFA and TLJ and felt that TRoS was weak albeit enjoyable. I find Rogue One to be mostly garbage and Solo to be fun if not ultimately forgettable. The Mandalorian started strong but certainly had some issues as it went along. And I am excited for TCW, Cassian and Obi-Wan. I see no self-inflicted wounds here. Of course you’ll just attack my opinion and tell me I’m wrong so I really don’t know why I’m bothering.
Time to move on. We're becoming repetitive.
 
Noticed a few VFX reels have been released into the wild showing how they retooled the Ep VII & VIII footage of Fisher into something usable, where they pulled the reference for the post-RotJ flashback Luke and Leia scene (note Fisher's daughter body doubling for Leia!) and some closer looks at that ridiculously complicated fleet scene. As expected, most of the larger ships are what you'd expect: a dozen or so meshes built for previous movies repeated over and over and over, mixed in with what's probably some retooled meshes from the various animated shows' libraries. Apparently at least a portion of them (mostly the deep background ones it seems) were partially assembled via procedural generation; which would explain a few that seemed familiar, but not exactly.
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The 'BBC Click' one seems noteworthy since I'm pretty sure that's the Fireball along with Torra & Yeager's fighters @3:12 (bottom left) However I'm not sure that shot made it into the final cut since, while I may have missed the tiny Fireball et al; there are also a fair number of Fang Fighters in that shot too and I'm pretty sure I would have noticed them being so prominent...and I don't. I mean I think a saw a few but not THAT many.
 
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Yet somehow became the highest grossing movie of all time domestically. Just a few movies later, and we've had an actual money loser Star Wars movie, while the concluding episode made $400 million less. That sucks.

What does it really matter? Unless you have points on the back end, it has absolutely no effect on you. There will clearly be lots more Star Wars coming, Disney didn't spend $4 billion dollars on it to reserve it to side shows on Disney+.
 
What does it really matter? Unless you have points on the back end, it has absolutely no effect on you. There will clearly be lots more Star Wars coming, Disney didn't spend $4 billion dollars on it to reserve it to side shows on Disney+.
Yeah, this is a question that I don't think we will ever get an answer to. We are constantly told that Box Office isn't a sign of quality, yet, somehow, if the SW films are not the "BEST EVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (trademark pending by Disney) and make all the money then they are a failure...

Um, I don't have any financial investment in Disney or LFL so someone explain to me how this makes sense...? :shrug:
 
Yeah, this is a question that I don't think we will ever get an answer to. We are constantly told that Box Office isn't a sign of quality, yet, somehow, if the SW films are not the "BEST EVAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (trademark pending by Disney) and make all the money then they are a failure...

Um, I don't have any financial investment in Disney or LFL so someone explain to me how this makes sense...? :shrug:

Maybe some folks get a measure of validation because they follow "the most popular" thing at any given time. Guess that doesn't affect me, because I've always followed Star Trek, which has never been the most popular thing at any given time. :lol:
 
Maybe some folks get a measure of validation because they follow "the most popular" thing at any given time. Guess that doesn't affect me, because I've always followed Star Trek, which has never been the most popular thing at any given time. :lol:
Same here. I pretty much have never loved something popular lol
 
The only opinion at the end of the day that matters to me when it comes to entertainment is my own. I follow box office and reviews as a curiosity, but ultimately know that none of it really will change the larger events of my life on a day to day basis. (Comes now those who will suggest that I'm on a TrekBBS board and that of course to some degree I care, to which I say, "I'm not doing this with you again. Thank you for your time.")
 
I don't know what's wrong with people here. It's like some kind of unbreakable mental lock, no matter how many times things are explained to them it doesn't get through. If you don't care about star wars, and don't want more if it, feel free to ignore the box office. If you want more, particularly more that follow the current course, you're shitting bricks like me right now.
 
I don't know what's wrong with people here. It's like some kind of unbreakable mental lock, no matter how many times things are explained to them it doesn't get through. If you don't care about star wars, and don't want more if it, feel free to ignore the box office. If you want more, particularly more that follow the current course, you're shitting bricks like me right now.

Could it be that people have differing opinions than you? *gasp*
Could it be that we all have our own worldview? *GASP*
Could it be that maybe, just maybe, just because you believe something doesn't mean everyone does or has to? *GASPY GASP!*

Maybe you should stop worrying what other people think. Live and let live.
 
Could it be that people have differing opinions than you? *gasp*
Could it be that we all have our own worldview? *GASP*
Could it be that maybe, just maybe, just because you believe something doesn't mean everyone does or has to? *GASPY GASP!*

Maybe you should stop worrying what other people think. Live and let live.

This is what I mean. Completely nonsensical post.

What is it that you don't believe? That box office affects a studio's plans for the future? How is this at all disputed???
 
This is what I mean. Completely nonsensical post.

What is it that you don't believe? That box office affects a studio's plans for the future? How is this at all disputed???

THAT JUST BECAUSE A MOVIE DOESN'T OUTDO THE PREVIOUS ONE DOESN'T MAKE IT A FAILURE!

Do you honestly believe that just because the movie made less than the last one, that its a failure?
Do you see the ridiculous level of your expectations?
Do you understand that you, crookeddy, don't have all of the information that is available to those who actually make the decisions regarding these properties?
Do you get the fact that you are not in charge of Star Wars?
 
THAT JUST BECAUSE A MOVIE DOESN'T OUTDO THE PREVIOUS ONE DOESN'T MAKE IT A FAILURE!

Do you honestly believe that just because the movie made less than the last one, that its a failure?
Do you see the ridiculous level of your expectations?
Do you understand that you, crookeddy, don't have all of the information that is available to those who actually make the decisions regarding these properties?
Do you get the fact that you are not in charge of Star Wars?

I think it was 2 years back right after Solo that I said that it's unlikely that we'll see another big Star Wars film for at least 10-15 years. The very next day they announced that they will be making the next movie for 2022, and I have to eat crow. But guess what? I shouldn't have. I was right and should have stuck by my feelings, which usually happen to be exactly right.

So I am saying it right now - we will not see a Star Wars movie in the theaters until ~2030. And that doesn't make me happy.
 
If you don't care about star wars, and don't want more if it, feel free to ignore the box office. If you want more, particularly more that follow the current course, you're shitting bricks like me right now.
it's not a mental block. It's the ability to think in more than just black & white terms regarding SW. I care about SW but don't give two shits about the box office. Why? Because I know that financial decisions are made at a level I have zero control over.

Guess what? I'm enjoying SW more now than I have in a while. Why? Because my wife and kids are along for the ride. I have friends that I can costume with now with their kids. My wife and I are reading novels together.

Bottom line: Fuck the box office. I make SW mine through my activities.
 
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