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Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

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You've made a statement about failed leadership... now prove it. She has $5.5 billion dollars of box office receipts across five movies, a hit show that is propping up Disney+ and future plans for the franchise.

You use a lot of words, but don't really seem to know what any of them mean.
I've proved it many times. much of that billion is due to the SW logo. But what she dropped four directors and three trilogies..
 
Most good leaders wouldn't make so many bad leadership decisions, announce them to the piublic, and then change them. Not so many of them in the past few years. I seem to remember episode 9 haivng a difference announced release date. Oh wait it also had a different announced DIRECTOR. Oh and B & W were announced to direct a trrilogy. As was RJ. Oh and Tank with Boba Fett. and L and M with Solo. And Gareth was pulled form Rogue One. and the new trilogy split the fanbase..

Everything is fine
 
Most good leaders wouldn't make so many bad leadership decisions, announce them to the piublic, and then change them. Not so many of them in the past few years. I seem to remember episode 9 haivng a difference announced release date.

Most franchises don't have the media constantly hovering over them, chasing information every single day. I remember some Marvel projects that haven't come to fruition and no one calls Kevin Feige a poor leader. Could it be something to do with what he has in his pants?

Everything is fine

I have no issue with the direction.
 
Kennedy's stewardship has given us Rogue One, Solo and The Mandalorian. All things considered if she's a trash fire then she's a trash fire that is at least so well contained that the neighborhood only occasionally notices and thinks it's a barbecue gone out of control.
 
Opinions change. Tastes change. There was a most popular thing before Star Wars. There will be a most popular thing after Marvel peters out. All of this has happened before... yadda yadda yadda...
Exactly. The fact that SW is no longer the big Wookiee campus is meaningless. Save for the apparent inability to accept that SW isn't a big deal.

Its all happened before and will happen again. Too bad, so sad, move on.
 
Exactly. The fact that SW is no longer the big Wookiee campus is meaningless. Save for the apparent inability to accept that SW isn't a big deal.

Its all happened before and will happen again. Too bad, so sad, move on.

I mean, really, Star Wars hasn’t been the “it” thing since 1983. In that time there were multiple franchises that took the reins. At the moment, it’s Marvel. And I would stand to gather that as more of the Avengers from the first three phases bow out, the box office returns are going to diminish considerably. Maybe Avatar will be next. (God, I hope not but maybe.) Or it might be something we don’t know of now. But for 37 years, through the dark times, the lit era, the special editions, the prequels, the next lit era, Clone Wars and evening the sequels, Star Wars really hasn’t been the top. But it doesn’t change the fact that it is popular. Just not AS popular. And that really is okay.
 
I mean, really, Star Wars hasn’t been the “it” thing since 1983. In that time there were multiple franchises that took the reins. At the moment, it’s Marvel. And I would stand to gather that as more of the Avengers from the first three phases bow out, the box office returns are going to diminish considerably. Maybe Avatar will be next. (God, I hope not but maybe.) Or it might be something we don’t know of now. But for 37 years, through the dark times, the lit era, the special editions, the prequels, the next lit era, Clone Wars and evening the sequels, Star Wars really hasn’t been the top. But it doesn’t change the fact that it is popular. Just not AS popular. And that really is okay.
Yes, you are quite right, of course. Unfortunately, for reasons that escape me, it seems to be a bitter pill to swallow that SW isn't the "it" thing any more.
 
It hasn't really been the "It" thing since 2005. Even when TFA came out it had far stiffer competition for the attention of kids as well as adults.
 
It hasn't really been the "It" thing since 2005. Even when TFA came out it had far stiffer competition for the attention of kids as well as adults.
Yet somehow became the highest grossing movie of all time domestically. Just a few movies later, and we've had an actual money loser Star Wars movie, while the concluding episode made $400 million less. That sucks.
 
It hasn't really been the "It" thing since 2005. Even when TFA came out it had far stiffer competition for the attention of kids as well as adults.
You are quite right as well. And that's a bit part. Comic book films were not the big thing they are now when SW first released. Competition is far stiffer, and Marvel has a ground swell behind it right now.

SW isn't the big thing. And that's OK.

Yet somehow became the highest grossing movie of all time domestically. Just a few movies later, and we've had an actual money loser Star Wars movie, while the concluding episode made $400 million less. That sucks.
Why does it suck, though? It was profitable, made money, and people enjoyed it. It was entertaining and fun. What more do we want?

This fan base is the most hyperdemanding and yet irrational at the same time...OK, well, that' most fan bases, but this obsessiveness over BTS and box office is odd to say the least.

I'll start to worry when Disney stops producing content...maybe.
 
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