TOS,D,A,C,B,E
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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You got E and D backwards
No, I know it is very much personal preference. The D just never struck me as a space ship. It feels very inelegant and unwieldy. Which, as I have studied spacecraft design I realize that aerodynamics are less concerning. But, the D is not visual appealing to me.
Mileage will vary and I'm aware that my opinion is supremely unpopular.
C & D are awesome! E is... different.
ps: I also have first editions of TTA books, Spacecraft 2000-2100, and Great Space Battles! They are amazing reads with some surreal Airbrush sci-fi art and starship designs
ps: I also have first editions of TTA books, Spacecraft 2000-2100, and Great Space Battles! They are amazing reads with some surreal Airbrush sci-fi art and starship designs
The NX-01 is better than the C, D or E. 
They are really going through the hoops to avoid showing the destination of that ship too early. One could even say the cameraman is bending over backwards to accommodate that...
As we only get aft views, we might be in for some surprises yet. But it's nice that the Romulan ship has this explicit windhshield slit, sort of giving her scale and establishing her as a mere ferry of some sort.
Timo Saloniemi
In this day and age a fleet of 3D Printed model ships could be built in a day or so, depending on how many printers are available.
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Must admit I like all of the Enterprises for differing reasons.
I do feel that some are more believable than others in the explorer role though with the B being the first with an honourable mention for the Kelvin 1701 and 1701A.
I do feel that some are more believable than others in the explorer role though with the B being the first with an honourable mention for the Kelvin 1701 and 1701A.
Anyone notice the shuttles in the rescue armada over Utopia Planetia, that we saw in the preview? TrekYards has a good shot in their latest videos, but they don’t mention the shuttles. The shuttles look new, or at least, non-Discovery.
Definitely.The NX-01 is better than the C, D or E.
The shape suggests a reuse or mild reskinning of the angular shuttles seen in the 2009 movie but never afterwards. More blue glow, but the same broad hull, downcanted wings and top aft corner engine pods.
Might be all-new as well, though. Or a modification of the Argo from ST:NEM.
Timo Saloniemi
Ugh, I hope not. Maybe it's the McCall-class John Eaves designed for the Ships of the Line calendars?
I see little problem with the reusing of shuttles. If they were analogous to today's automobiles, the customers would demand new models every two weeks. But they are more analogous to lorries or forklifts, and if one of those works in AD 2154, it should be fine in AD 2387, too.
The 2009 movie barge is the most utilitarian-looking of the entire Trek lot... And a much better fit for the scene than a sleek starship auxiliary!
Timo Saloniemi
The 2009 movie barge is the most utilitarian-looking of the entire Trek lot... And a much better fit for the scene than a sleek starship auxiliary!
Timo Saloniemi
I think we saw something akin to those on the Kelvin, which would put them Pre-Nero Changes and in the Prime Universe.
Nope, it's all new, in every part. But the parts are very era-appropriate: impulse engines and nacelles very much like on the E-E, say.
Whether the 2009 movie shuttles are "real" or "unreal" is debatable, as they are only ever seen in the alternate 2255 when Kirk enrolls and flies to San Fran, and in the alternate 2258 when he flies one of those to the Enterprise (despite first boarding a different sort!) and then Pike takes another to Nero. But they aren't particularly offending in terms of design or detail. And an Army truck is an Army truck, which is why it's so darn easy to do WWII movies with 2000s equipment.
Some cosmetics have apparently been done, as there seems to be blue glow where there was none before. Or then that's a trick of lighting and the crappy resolution. But at the resolution we have above, the two shuttles to the lower right could be 2009 ones, while the one in the foreground has a complex but probably different shape, and the ones to the left, flying away and flaunting their blue-glowing butts, are way more trapezoid than the 2009 craft in cross section.
So probably an all-new design after all. Even if created from the 2009 or Argo model by stretching and retexturing.
Timo Saloniemi
Whether the 2009 movie shuttles are "real" or "unreal" is debatable, as they are only ever seen in the alternate 2255 when Kirk enrolls and flies to San Fran, and in the alternate 2258 when he flies one of those to the Enterprise (despite first boarding a different sort!) and then Pike takes another to Nero. But they aren't particularly offending in terms of design or detail. And an Army truck is an Army truck, which is why it's so darn easy to do WWII movies with 2000s equipment.
Some cosmetics have apparently been done, as there seems to be blue glow where there was none before. Or then that's a trick of lighting and the crappy resolution. But at the resolution we have above, the two shuttles to the lower right could be 2009 ones, while the one in the foreground has a complex but probably different shape, and the ones to the left, flying away and flaunting their blue-glowing butts, are way more trapezoid than the 2009 craft in cross section.
So probably an all-new design after all. Even if created from the 2009 or Argo model by stretching and retexturing.
Timo Saloniemi
It's an E-ified version of the tug we "saw" on DSC. Or at least the same type of ship (tug). Not a lot of different ways to go with a ship like that.
At least it isn't the ideltical ship (I hope).
Basically everything is different. The pylons are new and don't have a cross-connect halfway. The primary hull isn't even a saucer, and doesn't appear to feature any elements copy-pasted from other designs. The nacelles have a familiar shape but the openings and protrusions are all in new places. The ramplike towing fixture has not been seen before.
So, are these the "warp-capable ferries" the reporter spoke of? Or just the tugs that bring materials to UP for construction of said? The containers being towed don't appear particularly capable, of warp, impulse or much anything else. But they could well be towed dormitories for moving the refugees, making the reporter technically inaccurate. Not exactly news...
Timo Saloniemi
So, are these the "warp-capable ferries" the reporter spoke of? Or just the tugs that bring materials to UP for construction of said? The containers being towed don't appear particularly capable, of warp, impulse or much anything else. But they could well be towed dormitories for moving the refugees, making the reporter technically inaccurate. Not exactly news...
Timo Saloniemi
Far right side of the pic, one of the tugs is in place for towing.
Must of Eaves shuttle designs look similar.
