List Only! Last Star Trek Episode You Watched
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Still on Generations. This is a hard movie to get through. I'm sooooooooooooo tempted to just skip to First Contact, but I'm not taking the easy way out.
EDIT: End of the film. Thank God. Kirk's death still makes me pissed off and makes me tear up at the same time. There are other things I want to say about the end of the film but they're pretty explosive, so I won't (don't even think about tempting me either).
Most of the rest of the time, my opinion of the film is mixed. I give it a 4 out of 10. On a four-star scale, that would be one-and-a-half stars. At the end of the day, I didn't like this one. My opinion of the film in 2020 is the same as it was in 1994. Ugh.
But FC will be so much better. Putting that on after I'm a little less upset.
EDIT: End of the film. Thank God. Kirk's death still makes me pissed off and makes me tear up at the same time. There are other things I want to say about the end of the film but they're pretty explosive, so I won't (don't even think about tempting me either).
Most of the rest of the time, my opinion of the film is mixed. I give it a 4 out of 10. On a four-star scale, that would be one-and-a-half stars. At the end of the day, I didn't like this one. My opinion of the film in 2020 is the same as it was in 1994. Ugh.
But FC will be so much better. Putting that on after I'm a little less upset.
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Star Trek: First Contact
Much more my speed. Much, much, much better. This is my third-favorite Star Trek movie behind TWOK and TVH. I give it a 9 out of 10. Or three-and-a-half stars out of four. This is the most cinematic TNG ever felt. I seriously wonder if even Picard will top it in that department. Although I'm sure it'll come close if it doesn't. I've said so much about First Contact, I might as well cut-and-paste what I've said elsewhere about it before. Here's a "best of" collection of things I've said about the film recently.
----- November 23rd, 2019 -----
I thought this movie was awesome when I went to go see it and I still do. "Star Trek: Generations? What's that?"
The soundtrack was up there with the best of them, so is the model work. Zephram Cochrane makes a great stand-in for Gene Roddenberry. I get more appreciation out of Troi's drunk scene than I did when I was 17, being in her position a lot of times before. And this was just overall a good movie.
Especially cathartic when the Picard/Lily scene in the Briefing Room when she yells at him to blow up the ship and you know the rest of what happens. Powerful, powerful stuff. And right before it too when Worf tells Picard, "If you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand" and Picard says, "Get off my bridge." It's really raw, and I really liked it.
The best part about this movie is that it doesn't feel like Just Another Adventure. This is a follow-up to "The Best of Both Worlds" while also showing Vulcan making First Contact with Earth and giving us the origin story of Star Trek lore as a whole.
Another favorite part of mine is the Borg Queen's seduction of Data. I'm also not one of those people who has problem with the Borg Queen. She speaks for the Borg just like she had Locutus speak for the Borg in "The Best of Both Worlds". So it's actually within their character. Especially if it's a Hive Mind. And every Hive has its Queen.
And I can't end this post without mentioning the Zero-G Combat Sequence. The music, the way it was shot, and Worf's line, "Assimilate this!" Speaking of Worf. Great to have the Klingon Theme back. And even though they never made a DS9 Movie, at least we get to see the Defiant here doing exactly what it was designed to do.
So yeah. First Contact is the best TNG Movie ever. It's not even close.
----- September 29th, 2018 -----
Star Trek: First Contact contains the most accurate portrayal of Gene Roddenberry on film. They just changed his name to Zephram Cochrane.
----- August 11th, 2018 -----
My favorite exchange ever comes from Star Trek: First Contact...
Picard: In the 24th Century we have a more evolved sensibility.
Lily: Bullshit! I saw the look on your face on the holodeck. You were almost enjoying it!
Picard: How dare you.
Lily: Oh come on, Captain. You're not the first person to get a thrill from murdering someone. I see it all the time!
Picard: GET OUT!!!!
Lily: Or what? You'll kill me? Like you killed Ensign Lynch?
Picard: There was no way to save him.
Lily: You didn't even try!!! Where was your evolved sensibility then?!
Picard: This is not about revenge!
Lily: Liar!!!
Picard: This is about Saving Humanity!
Lily: Jean-Luc, blow up the damn ship!!!
Picard: NO!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best scene ever. Cuts through EVERYTHING! And why I think "We're more evolved!" is just propaganda.
----- June 20th, 2018 -----
There are some flaws (why go back in time?) but they're not enough to effect my enjoyment. Lily calls Picard out on his 24th Century bullshit, Patrick Stewart's acting was top-notch, we got to see some of his most raw acting ever in that same scene (up there with "Chain of Command, Part II"), and I love Worf's line "If you were any other man I would kill you where you stand." Cap it all off with drunk Troi and a great Jerry Goldsmith score.
The Dixon Hill scene was a hoot too and I love the space-walk.
And say what you want to about the Borg Queen, but she was sensual and I liked her as a villain. She's a voice for the Borg, and even though it's an individual instead of the Hive Mind, so was Locutus.
Then there's the scene where Picard and everyone strategize. It reminds of me Aliens, and in a good way.
I think it's the For Your Eyes Only of TNG Movies. FYEO was the only Roger Moore Bond movie I thought was good. Live and Let Die and A View to a Kill are guilty pleasures, but I know they're horrible.
Much more my speed. Much, much, much better. This is my third-favorite Star Trek movie behind TWOK and TVH. I give it a 9 out of 10. Or three-and-a-half stars out of four. This is the most cinematic TNG ever felt. I seriously wonder if even Picard will top it in that department. Although I'm sure it'll come close if it doesn't. I've said so much about First Contact, I might as well cut-and-paste what I've said elsewhere about it before. Here's a "best of" collection of things I've said about the film recently.
----- November 23rd, 2019 -----
I thought this movie was awesome when I went to go see it and I still do. "Star Trek: Generations? What's that?"
The soundtrack was up there with the best of them, so is the model work. Zephram Cochrane makes a great stand-in for Gene Roddenberry. I get more appreciation out of Troi's drunk scene than I did when I was 17, being in her position a lot of times before. And this was just overall a good movie.
Especially cathartic when the Picard/Lily scene in the Briefing Room when she yells at him to blow up the ship and you know the rest of what happens. Powerful, powerful stuff. And right before it too when Worf tells Picard, "If you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand" and Picard says, "Get off my bridge." It's really raw, and I really liked it.
The best part about this movie is that it doesn't feel like Just Another Adventure. This is a follow-up to "The Best of Both Worlds" while also showing Vulcan making First Contact with Earth and giving us the origin story of Star Trek lore as a whole.
Another favorite part of mine is the Borg Queen's seduction of Data. I'm also not one of those people who has problem with the Borg Queen. She speaks for the Borg just like she had Locutus speak for the Borg in "The Best of Both Worlds". So it's actually within their character. Especially if it's a Hive Mind. And every Hive has its Queen.
And I can't end this post without mentioning the Zero-G Combat Sequence. The music, the way it was shot, and Worf's line, "Assimilate this!" Speaking of Worf. Great to have the Klingon Theme back. And even though they never made a DS9 Movie, at least we get to see the Defiant here doing exactly what it was designed to do.
So yeah. First Contact is the best TNG Movie ever. It's not even close.
----- September 29th, 2018 -----
Star Trek: First Contact contains the most accurate portrayal of Gene Roddenberry on film. They just changed his name to Zephram Cochrane.
----- August 11th, 2018 -----
My favorite exchange ever comes from Star Trek: First Contact...
Picard: In the 24th Century we have a more evolved sensibility.
Lily: Bullshit! I saw the look on your face on the holodeck. You were almost enjoying it!
Picard: How dare you.
Lily: Oh come on, Captain. You're not the first person to get a thrill from murdering someone. I see it all the time!
Picard: GET OUT!!!!
Lily: Or what? You'll kill me? Like you killed Ensign Lynch?
Picard: There was no way to save him.
Lily: You didn't even try!!! Where was your evolved sensibility then?!
Picard: This is not about revenge!
Lily: Liar!!!
Picard: This is about Saving Humanity!
Lily: Jean-Luc, blow up the damn ship!!!
Picard: NO!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best scene ever. Cuts through EVERYTHING! And why I think "We're more evolved!" is just propaganda.
----- June 20th, 2018 -----
There are some flaws (why go back in time?) but they're not enough to effect my enjoyment. Lily calls Picard out on his 24th Century bullshit, Patrick Stewart's acting was top-notch, we got to see some of his most raw acting ever in that same scene (up there with "Chain of Command, Part II"), and I love Worf's line "If you were any other man I would kill you where you stand." Cap it all off with drunk Troi and a great Jerry Goldsmith score.
The Dixon Hill scene was a hoot too and I love the space-walk.
And say what you want to about the Borg Queen, but she was sensual and I liked her as a villain. She's a voice for the Borg, and even though it's an individual instead of the Hive Mind, so was Locutus.
Then there's the scene where Picard and everyone strategize. It reminds of me Aliens, and in a good way.
I think it's the For Your Eyes Only of TNG Movies. FYEO was the only Roger Moore Bond movie I thought was good. Live and Let Die and A View to a Kill are guilty pleasures, but I know they're horrible.
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"Phantasm": Entertaining but makes absolutely no sense. Why would Data repress that information? He doesn't have any feelings and even if he had why would that particular event need to be repressed!!! It's stupid. Data stabs Deanna to "kill" the beast or whatever. It's a good thing he didn't stab Geordi in the neck or Riker in the head!!! Strip him to his wires! Do it now before he blows the ship because of another "repressed" memory!!!
"Dark Page": "Metaconscience"? Another term that makes absolutely no sense. A meta conscience would be something to analyse the working of your conscience, just as metalogic is used to analyze the working of logic. The thing is, we already have that!!! It's called our conscience!!! Our conscience is capable of analyzing the working of our conscience, we don't need any freaking "metaconscience".
"Dark Page": "Metaconscience"? Another term that makes absolutely no sense. A meta conscience would be something to analyse the working of your conscience, just as metalogic is used to analyze the working of logic. The thing is, we already have that!!! It's called our conscience!!! Our conscience is capable of analyzing the working of our conscience, we don't need any freaking "metaconscience".
The Doomsday Machine (TOS Blu-ray). I love Kirk's assertiveness in dealing with Decker ("Not with my ship, you don't!")
"Attached": One of these pointless heavy-handed episodes that make you wonder. Near the end we see Picard and Bev laugh at something funny Bev "thought". I'd be really curious to know what it is because nothing she ever says out loud is in the least bit funny. She's in fact the female version of Picard, sanctimonious, pompous, dull and full of herself. No wonder these two go well together.
"Force Of Nature": Well-intentioned but heavy-handed and somewhat ambivalent as often when the franchise wants to send a "message".
"Inheritance": Entertaining... let's leave it at that. Just one question: How was Soong able to program his hologram with the knowledge that his "wife" had left him? Did he do it by remote? Or maybe he did like with Data; got her to come to his laboratory to get the disc updated? seems odd either way.
"Parallels": Very nice. I like how they subtly change the design of the ship and the uniforms between realities. If only we had more of these.
"The Pegasus": I've never heard of a treaty where one side is allowed to use a device and the other isn't unless one of the sides is signing with a proverbial gun to their head... Kinda like the type of treaty the native Americans were forced to agree to. So maybe it's a cultural thing.
"Homeward": There's only one character who makes some sense and he's treated by everyone else like a criminal or a madman... enough said.
...to be continued
"Force Of Nature": Well-intentioned but heavy-handed and somewhat ambivalent as often when the franchise wants to send a "message".
"Inheritance": Entertaining... let's leave it at that. Just one question: How was Soong able to program his hologram with the knowledge that his "wife" had left him? Did he do it by remote? Or maybe he did like with Data; got her to come to his laboratory to get the disc updated? seems odd either way.
"Parallels": Very nice. I like how they subtly change the design of the ship and the uniforms between realities. If only we had more of these.
"The Pegasus": I've never heard of a treaty where one side is allowed to use a device and the other isn't unless one of the sides is signing with a proverbial gun to their head... Kinda like the type of treaty the native Americans were forced to agree to. So maybe it's a cultural thing.
"Homeward": There's only one character who makes some sense and he's treated by everyone else like a criminal or a madman... enough said.
...to be continued
BTW, what’s the strategy for ending this thread before page 1000?
Why? There are threads that have went well beyond 1,000 pages.
: Actually, you're only supposed to sacrifice Geordi if you don't have an Admiral handy...
It's okay. We don't need to pretend anymore. The cat's out of the bag. They know something's up.
There is a strategy... but I can't tell you about it. All I can say is: you'll know it when you see it. We've been practicing secret drills for months in the private room.
I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill you.
"Blink of an Eye" - VOY
I hear the CIA is involved at some point.
"Masks": At what point do the rulers of a super-advanced civilization come together and decide to create a very big artifact that they'll let drift through space that will turn every ship it crosses path with into a big Aztec-like structure with swamps, tropical plants, and snakes? I have trouble picturing that...
"Eye Of The Beholder": I am sort of weirded out by that one. Well, it's one of those "it was all a dream" plots that I don't really like because nothing really matters.
"Eye Of The Beholder": I am sort of weirded out by that one. Well, it's one of those "it was all a dream" plots that I don't really like because nothing really matters.
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