Patrick Stewart has seen first 5 episodes, hopes fans won't be disappointed

[mtblillie]

Yeah! Just like Star Trek: The Motion Picture was a total rehash because it had Star Trek in the title...wait...

I shall do my best to not make tired assumptions, but more energetic ones.

You're not who I had in mind, but I'll take it...

What he said

 

[Kor]

I haven't had a chance to watch the interview, but... "hopes fans won't be disappointed" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Kor

 

[serabine]

I haven't had a chance to watch the interview, but... "hopes fans won't be disappointed" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Kor

I mean, it's pretty much a reality. There's will be people who will be disappointed. Some because it's not just a sequel to TNG (with Q! And Worf! And the Enterprise!!), some will be disappointed because it's not a return to "real Trek" (episodic alien of the week stories that looks true to a 1990s hotel lobby aesthetics), some, like me, would be disappointed if it's just a long string of faces of the past who "should" be there because they were "such a large part of TNG" (it's already bothering me how many confirmed cameos we have, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt).

People will be disappointed, some to the point of spitting venom, it's just a matter of how many will be disappointed, really.

 

[XCV330]

I haven't had a chance to watch the interview, but... "hopes fans won't be disappointed" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Kor

He's been around fans a long time. He knows.

 

[Tuskin38]

it's already bothering me how many confirmed cameos we have

If they were more than cameos I’d agree with you.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

some, like me, would be disappointed if it's just a long string of faces of the past who "should" be there because they were "such a large part of TNG" (it's already bothering me how many confirmed cameos we have, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt).

7 of 9 and Hugh: relevant to the Borg plot.

Riker and Troi: very good friends of Picard who are married (i.e. they're going to appear together).

Data: seems to be only in Picard's head.

I don't see the problem.

 

[fireproof78]

Wait and see is all I'm doing. I'm not convinced they are only cameos.

 

[Reanok]

I hope we'll get more news about the TNG characters like Data and Riker and Troi and about Seven of nine and Hugh soon.I'd like to see Guinan again especially with all the stuff with the borg.

 

[drt]

Wait and see is all I'm doing. I'm not convinced they are only cameos.

I'm thinking that Riker & Troi will be extended cameos, and that Seven and Hugh will be integral to setting up the plot for the first episode or two, but won't be seen after that. Data, I'm not sure, I could see him being a flashback or "voice of Picard's conscience" recurring character just as easily as another cameo.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm not convinced they are only cameos.

Based on Frakes twitter, he's only in one episode. Unless he also directed an episode with himself in it.

 

[fireproof78]

Based on Frakes twitter, he's only in one episode. Unless he also directed an episode with himself in it.

And Ewan McGregor wasn't doing an Obi-Wan series.

As I said, I'll wait and see.

 

[Yistaan]

And Ewan McGregor wasn't doing an Obi-Wan series.

As I said, I'll wait and see.

To be fair, Frakes could be in only one episode and still be integral to the plot.

Section 31 Director Ash Tyler: Tell us where the girl is, Picard.

Picard: There are... four... lights!

Tyler: Fine, have it your way. Bring in the other prisoner and I'll vaporize him... with a Varon-T disruptor.

Picard: Will... ?

(Tyler blasts Riker)

Riker: AAAARRRGGGH!!!

Picard: NOOOOOOOOOO!

(snaps out of restraints from sheer force of will and goes on rampage)

 

[cooleddie74]

I imagine this won't be Gene Roddenberry/Rick Berman Picard. It's okay, since this takes place twenty years after that version of the character.

People change.

TWOK Kirk definitely wasn't the same as "Space Seed(TOS)" Kirk. Nicholas Meyer and Harve Bennett gave a different spin to the character than Gene Roddenberry and the writers of TOS did and Shatner ran with it, giving one of the best performances of his entire career playing the character.

It would only make sense for a 52-year-old James T. Kirk no longer sitting in the Captain's chair to be a different man in many respects from the 34-year-old James T. Kirk on his first five-year mission of exploration and in the midst of the action.

 

[Lord Garth]

I wouldn't mind if it's TNG Series Picard, even though it probably won't be. But if this is TNG Movie Picard, then forget it. But I feel it won't be that either. It'll be Picard Picard who's come out from the other side of his Midlife Crisis.

But I don't mind if it's TNG Movie Picard in flashbacks or "Children of Mars" if it means those are the events that snapped him out of it and we'll get to actually see it.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

TPTB have learned from Voyager.

Gene's "no conflict" rule was in effect during Voyager's first three seasons (Everyone got along. Everyone was this one big, happy family).

It led to the show staring down the barrel of cancellation after S3.

No conflict = Boring TV (especially now, in this age of "reality" TV, when people are conniving and stabbing each other in the back on camera ).

Not really. Gene's no conflict kick was something he pushed hard during early TNG, but they started moving away from it almost as soon as Roddenberry was forced out of an active role. TNG had personal conflict. DS9 had quite a bit of personal conflict. And VOY started out closer to DS9 in that regard than to TNG, although they did rather inexplicably back away from it very quickly - by the end of the first season, really, at which point they just kind of declared the maquis problem 'solved' and moved away from it. But even then, there was still repeated personal conflict (for instance between Neelix and Paris, Neelix and Tuvok or Paris and Tuvok - which is without even mentioning things like the ongoing Seska storyline).

 

[cooleddie74]

And, of course, ENT was full of conflict and personal prejudices.

 

[Qonundrum]

Mindmessing with the audience seems to be par for the course nowadays.

The show is about Picard, the 1701-D is destroyed, the 1701-E sets no longer exist... they won't be extravagant to build a new one until/unless the show gains enough return viewers... Even then, I get the feeling they're moving the show and character forward. Apart from a namedrop as reference, I honestly don't believe they'll wallow in fanwank.

 

[Qonundrum]

I know I'll sound like an a**hole but....

Some hardcore fans will be disappointed. People have ideas in their heads on how they feel Picard should act and behave and think and talk and all. This won't be their image of both the character and the timeframe. And I think the creators are aware of that.

I agree. How many go into this with an open mind and to degree of openness. I'm sure there were detractors of TWOK comparing Kirk's aged mannerisms compared to Kirk of the TV show.

I imagine this won't be Gene Roddenberry/Rick Berman Picard. It's okay, since this takes place twenty years after that version of the character.

People change.

^^this

If suspension of disbelief is maintained with credible scripting, that'll help even if those viewers don't like all of the changes. Rarely is anything 100%.

And if they are - they can lay the blame on Patrick Stewart as much as the rest of the creative staff as he had A LOT of input in the Writing Room. They pretty much did it the way he wanted.

Sir Patrick Stewart knows Picard the best. 178 episodes as Picard and 4 movies of which 3 show him more akin as Jean McClane (of which he had to act his socks off), it's not hard to believe he'd focus more on the 178 TV episodes where his character shone through the best and most consistently...

 

[Danja]

The show is about Picard, the 1701-D is destroyed, the 1701-E sets no longer exist... they won't be extravagant to build a new one until/unless the show gains enough return viewers... Even then, I get the feeling they're moving the show and character forward. Apart from a namedrop as reference, I honestly don't believe they'll wallow in fanwank.

Stewart is on record as saying he doesn't want to do TNG Picard anymore

He seems content to leave the action to the kids (by "kids", I mean anyone younger than HIM ).

 

[donners22]

Gene's "no conflict" rule was in effect during Voyager's first three seasons (Everyone got along. Everyone was this one big, happy family).

It led to the show staring down the barrel of cancellation after S3.

DS9 had plenty of conflict and that didn't stop its ratings from dropping sharply over the course of its run.

The temporary spike in Voyager's ratings after S3 says more about the popularity of the Borg and Seven rather than the importance of conflict.

I don't want the bland, predictable characters of TNG either, but nor do characters have to be at each other's throats to be interesting.

Some people are digging themselves in quite deep with their dislike/hatred of what's down the line. Suppose they like end up actually liking Picard? Will they have the stones to admit it wasn't as bad as they thought it would be?

I think people who go in expecting to hate something will find reasons to do so. Even if they don't, no doubt there will be certain video channels feeding them such reasons, whether genuine, manipulated or entirely false.