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Rian Johnson trilogy canceled

Lots of fans didn't know Star Wars existed, until they did. So I'm not seeing your point? The title "Star Wars" gets it publicity that other films dream of.

I know Star Wars has more story potential in theory but if they make movies people don't like the brand name won't protect them forever. They are also moving into dangerous times were they can't rely on the Classic movies for content which means we will see just how much people love the Universe of SW vs people who just loves the Classic Movies. In the same way Trek has issues when it moves away from a Enterprise setting I wonder how much people will go for a Skywalker- less storyline.

Jason
 
Fake news is listening to the Disney spin, that they are saying everything is normal and yet they are slowing things down, they have screwed up with 5 creative teams for films in a row, and that they are doing extensive TROS reshoots right now.. and ever notice that Iger himself is doing KK's job?
 
TRoS comes out in 37 days and will premiere the week prior. I’d like to know your source that suggests “extensive reshoots” are happening right now as in today.

Did reshoots occur? Yes.
Are they happening now? Not likely.
Were they extensive? That’s really not known.
 
Can anyone answer the question why we care so much about Disney's day to day operational runnings?

I don't recall obsessing over all the technical details when the PT was being done. This obsessive hand wringing is borderlining on pathological.

Because some parties have to cling to every crumb of evidence that might indicate what they hate is failing miserably.

Simply not liking something apparently is no longer enough.
 
Because some parties have to cling to every crumb of evidence that might indicate what they hate is failing miserably.

Simply not liking something apparently is no longer enough.
I just cannot imagine the same headlines leading with Lucas at the helm...even at his lowest when people had a lot of doubt around AOTC leading in to ROTS.
 
Can anyone answer the question why we care so much about Disney's day to day operational runnings?

I don't recall obsessing over all the technical details when the PT was being done. This obsessive hand wringing is borderlining on pathological.

Because people online make money by making Star Wars and other fan stuff "news" to be talked about and to talk about it you constantly have to find knew things, knew clickbait to keep people invested. The Internet is like the plant in "Little Shop of Horrors." Constantly needing to be fed.


Jason
 
I just cannot imagine the same headlines leading with Lucas at the helm...even at his lowest when people had a lot of doubt around AOTC leading in to ROTS.

As a culture, we’ve become far more divided in opinions. Not to mention the fact that negativity is what draws people in these days. We’re a culture of negativity. Far more than we were back in 2005. And it doesn’t help that people will believe what they want.

As I’ve said, don’t like the movies. Hate them if you want. But don’t lie about this shit. It’s not worth it. There is so much that goes on behind the scenes on a Hollywood production that we don’t know about. It’s so easy to suggest we’re experts on the topic. But we’re not. I don’t deny that there have been issues at LFL. Sure, some of that comes from management. But this idea that all things are contingent upon what some deem as the creative failure of TLJ and the box office failure of Solo are enough to sink this franchise. The future is unclear as to how it’s happening but until they pull that December 2022 date from Star Wars, I have no reason to be concerned.
 
Instead of critics, owners, producers, managers, drill instructors, and accountants all rolled into one.

Because at the end of the day, we only know what we’re told from the people actually running the show. The rest of it is pure speculation. Honestly? Do you really want to know how the sausage is made?
 
Because at the end of the day, we only know what we’re told from the people actually running the show. The rest of it is pure speculation. Honestly? Do you really want to know how the sausage is made?
Having friends who work in the VFX industry (one worked for LucasArts back in the day) I know quite well how the sausage is made.

And, quite honestly, I wish I didn't.
 
Having friends who work in the VFX industry (one worked for LucasArts back in the day) I know quite well how the sausage is made.

And, quite honestly, I wish I didn't.

I studied TV and film production in college. Having worked in legal for the majority of my career and deciding in my late 30s to make a career change to healthcare administration, a fat lot of good that’s done me. While I didn’t have a lot of studying of the business end of things, I do have some friends in L.A. who have worked in the industry. Their stories made me glad not to ultimately pursue that path.
 
BTW the day the new movies were announced I posted saying that I don't think we will see another Star Wars movie for the next 10-15 years and everyone laughed at me. Unfortunately, it looks like I will be proven right as usual.
Disney is not going to put a cash cow like Star Wars films on hold for ten to fifteen years after forking over $4 billion for the rights. That's an absurd prediction worthy of your arch-nemesis Digific, and made with the same undeserved arrogance about your predictive abilities. They'll take a Warsxit from films for a couple of years and let their streaming service represent the Star Wars brand for a while, retool their plans and film crews, and then be back at it again, this time probably without over-saturating the market with too many films too quickly.

Instead of badly predicting the future, Carnac, why don't you expend a little more effort into not spreading rumors based on news articles from clearly biased sources that quote angry YouTube videos and have about the same credibility as a deposed Nigerian prince asking you for a donation to help him retake his throne, mmkay?

I do think it's a very strong likelihood the Rian Johnson trilogy will be cancelled, so don't do another "I told you so" endzone dance and spike the football if it does, because you still screwed up with this thread, and it's a bad look even if you;re right when there are people who were/are looking forward to seeing it and don't want to see the franchise take a hit. It's a shit move on your part.

While I was not a fan of TLJ, I'm not one of those jackasses who hates on Rian Johnson, and I would have looked forward to seeing what he might have done with new characters and settings of his own, if that had been the option, and I wish him success in his future projects. I just didn't think TLJ made a very good transition from TFA or set up for the finale, and didn't care for the way it handled some of the main characters. But that's an argument that's been had ad nauseam and I don't bother getting into it anymore.

they planned them.. they ANNOUNCED them.

If proper vetting had replaced hubris they would have been careful about they officially announce to the public. They once thought they would release one film a year indefinitely.
Literally all they said was "We hired the Game of Thrones guys to make a trilogy of films and gave Rian Johnson his own trilogy as well"? And what further vetting was needed? At the time the announcement was made Game of Thrones had been nominated for 160 Emmy's and won 59, was hugely popular, the series hadn't yet shit the bed in the final two episodes, and Benioff & Weiss hadn't started avoiding appearances after the series ending backlash but then doing interviews where they weirdly make themselves look bad all by themselves. They were a pretty safe bet when the announcement was made. Disney can't predict the future.

Rian Johnson was someone they had already worked well with, it was pre-Mary Sue sexist incel manbaby "I'm filing a petition against Kathleen Kennedy" years long backlash (and those people are just insecure losers who should be ignored anyway), and it had good early critical reviews. Also a pretty safe bet at that point.

if they hadn't screwed up with agenda and corporate synergy storytelling, maybe they would have been able to do one film a year and people would love it
Seriously, stop hiding behind the cowardly "agenda" shit and just say what you mean: "I don't like my Star Wars to have anyone in the main lead who's not a straight white male, and I'm going to beat this actual agenda of my own into the fucking ground in every thread because if I don't keep pounding, my thoughts will turn and I will be reminded that the mere sight of a fictional woman hero makes me quake in my boots."

I still won't respect you for it, because it's a shitty way to be, but at least you'll be honest with yourself and others.
 
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