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Star Trek: Picard teaser trailer

I know, I’m reading too much into Picard’s expression, but I wonder if there’s a bit of a Prisoner vibe here. “Why did you leave Starfleet, Admiral?” could be an interview question, but it could also be a “Why did you resign, Number Six?” kind of scenario.
 
The look on Picard face is the same look that he had when he gotten news of his brother Robert and Nephew Rene had died in a fire. Do y'all remember how he acted? He didn't wanted to do anything. It was Troi whom got him back on his feet.
 
A rumor that a former Twilight actor is going to be Batman? Madness and anger!
Meme of Danny DeVito being Wolverine? All for it! Go to Change.gov and make a petition for it to happen!
"Gangsta's Paradise" playing in a video-game movie trailer? You're ruining an entire property. (Ok, that trailer was pretty crappy.)
Tarp blows off the fender of a 60-year-old vehicle? The franchise is BACK baby!
Water bottle barely seen behind someone's foot in a show taking place in medieval times? Remake the entire season!
Hovercraft farm-equipment treats a vineyard? Going to be the best Trek, ever!

Sigh, Internet.
I'll admit that the Internet is highly confusing. I find the positive reaction and reckless speculation highly amusing.
 
Fans:

Star Trek Discovery: SCREW THIS SHOW AND CBS ALL ACCESS
Star Trek Picard: OMG OMG OMG WINE!! GIVE ME THAT CBS ALL ACCESS!

Hypocrites.

OMG IT'S THE FLUTE! THE FLUTE! DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Can't say I see why it would be hypocritical to be interested in one show and not the other.

What I can see is that calling everyone in the thread hypocrites is Trolling. Dial it back.
 
Everyone speculating about the Hobus tie-ins and Nemesis tie-ins and Irrumodic Syndrome are going to predictably be overwhelmed with disappointment and lose their minds when it ends up being something different and original.

Setting yourself up for nerdrage.

All this has happened before, and it will happen again
 
It's strange to me that so many can walk away from this trailer excited. I'm not saying that one should be jaded, like am, or angry; but it just seems so unusual for people to be excited. In a world where people flip their shit when Robert Pattinson is rumored to be the next Batman (yet at the same time are all for signing petitions for Danny DeVito to be the nex Wolverine. Huh?!) A Starbucks cup appearing on Game of Thrones and a disappointing final season drives them to a petition to redo the entire fucking thing, it's strange that people can jump on board this trailer and think that, well, it can only be good, great and awesome.

It was a nice looking trailer, good visuals, and music and the narration was... Meh, mostly because it just feels like it's going to deal with "dark" stuff I'm not interested in when it comes to my Trek and I didn't blow my wad when Picard appeared. I sort of expected it.

But what is there to be excited over? The hovercraft tending to the vineyard? (Which, what was it doing? Any answer I can think of doesn't fit in the Trek world. Watering them? Today such a device might be needed in times of droughts, but in Trek's time weather control would make such a thing impossible. Applying herbicides/pesticides or other such chemicals? Seems to me that such a thing wouldn't be done in Trek's times and other means to protect plants from biological threats would've been found.) A Picard body double grazing his hands on the vines?

It reminds me of that Ghostbusters [3] trailer that came out a few months ago that was some of the first movie's eerie music playing over a shot of a barn with flashes of light and the sound effects of the proton packs as the wind blows a tarp off the rear fender of Ecto-1, not a single shot of the movie has been made, hell is there even a script?! And people declared that was going to be the greatest Ghostbuster movie since the original and that those behind it "got it."

This over-reactionary action of the internet.

A rumor that a former Twilight actor is going to be Batman? Madness and anger!
Meme of Danny DeVito being Wolverine? All for it! Go to Change.gov and make a petition for it to happen!
"Gangsta's Paradise" playing in a video-game movie trailer? You're ruining an entire property. (Ok, that trailer was pretty crappy.)
Tarp blows off the fender of a 60-year-old vehicle? The franchise is BACK baby!
Water bottle barely seen behind someone's foot in a show taking place in medieval times? Remake the entire season!
Hovercraft farm-equipment treats a vineyard? Going to be the best Trek, ever!

Sigh, Internet.

Perhaps people prefer being hopeful vs being cynical and miserable. Perhaps people want to enjoy the anticipation and pure joy at the prospect of something they love returning after so many years. Perhaps people genuinely were moved. Perhaps there are people who have enjoyed modern Trek and are looking forward to more

I know, crazy... but try to imagine it.
 
The TNG finale, we got to see the Picard in his advanced age, 25 yrs in the future at the time. I assume it is a bit earlier or close to that in the new series. In All Good Things he chatted with Geordi and went to consult Data, who had greyed his hair on purpose. He then asked Beverley for a ship to go to see the anomaly and admiral Riker was there too. I wonder if any of them will make any cameo in this new show since they are all still alive.
That future timeline was wiped clean in the end of that 2-part story. Never happened.
 
since they are all still alive

We don’t know that. The AGT future could not unfold exactly as depicted once Picard revealed the future to his crew (not to mention it was likely a Q created version that disappeared entirely).

Can't say I see why it would be hypocritical to be interested in one show and not the other.

I think the hypocrisy might lie in the contradictory attitudes towards All-Access rather than in liking one show over the other. Just a thought (not trying to persist in name calling).
 
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So 86 is the vintage, right? As in 2386? So if he was still Admiral in let's say in 2384 when the "big thing" happened, he then retired, planted some grapes and got his first harvest and wine bottles right around 2386, that seems right. And "now" it is 2399, 15 years since he retired. I think everything lines up with that date. Am I missing anything?
Previous bottles:
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2267

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from captain Georgiou's shelf, a 2249.
 
Have not read the whole thread, but Romulus/death if Beverly would be obvious reasons for him leaving. Everyone would get that, I think.

But the narrator is still asking why.
 
If the story is about a romulan migrant crisis, I will not be pleased. There must still exist enough uninhabited M-Class worlds to relocate those Romulans. Either this or the Hobus Nova ripped such a massive hole in the beta quadrant, destroying habitable worlds on an unprecedented scale.
Or maybe, they just came to late in their rescue mission.
Anyway, the probability of Kurtzman using his 09 Story as starting point and some modern political issue in combination with it is quite high.
And I'll try to be open about it. As long as it doesnt feel anachronistic.
 
If the story is about a romulan migrant crisis, I will not be pleased. There must still exist enough uninhabited M-Class worlds to relocate those Romulans. Either this or the Hobus Nova ripped such a massive hole in the beta quadrant, destroying habitable worlds on an unprecedented scale.
Or maybe, they just came to late in their rescue mission.
Anyway, the probability of Kurtzman using his 09 Story as starting point and some modern political issue in combination with it is quite high.
And I'll try to be open about it. As long as it doesnt feel anachronistic.

I really hope it's not a migrant crisis episode or they try to do any political commentary with refugees, strict borders or any of that.

Which isn't to say I mind political commentary and allegory in Trek. Heck, it was baked into the show from the beginning.

But I think that would be a little too on the nose.

Not to mention unrealistic. There has never been a convenient shortage for available Class-M planets whenever they were needed, from episodes like "Homeward" to "Sanctuary", etc.

Not to mention, Romulus isn't one planet...it's a friggin' Empire. They should have tons of their own worlds available to absorb the survivors.

Having a bunch of Romulans as homeless refugees just doesn't hold water.

I very much hope they deal with the Romulan crisis in a way that makes sense and is logical and thoughtful. The loss of Romulus would be a huge, catastrophic event, (and could drive stories) but it wouldn't completely destroy the Empire.
 
But what is there to be excited over? The hovercraft tending to the vineyard? (Which, what was it doing? Any answer I can think of doesn't fit in the Trek world. Watering them? Today such a device might be needed in times of droughts, but in Trek's time weather control would make such a thing impossible.

Of course it was watering the vines. Yes, there is weather modification in the Star Trek future, but no, there's no reason to think it's fine tuned enough for every single strip of crop-bearing land so that you'd never need to actually do any watering yourself.

That's absurd.
 
Of course it was watering the vines. Yes, there is weather modification in the Star Trek future, but no, there's no reason to think it's fine tuned enough for every single strip of crop-bearing land so that you'd never need to actually do any watering yourself.

That's absurd.

I know its nitpicking on my side, but their are far easier and more convenient irrigation systems, with simple rubber tubes, to water your vineyards. Hovercraft look more futuristic and cooler though.

edit: And european vineyards often dont use any irrigation at all.

edit 2:
In many Old World wine regions, natural rainfall is considered the only source for water that will still allow the vineyard to maintain its terroir characteristics. The practice of irrigation is viewed by some critics as unduly manipulative with the potential for detrimental wine quality due to high yields that can be artificially increased with irrigation.[2] It has been historically banned by the European Union's wine laws, though in recent years individual countries (such as Spain) have been loosening their regulations and France's wine governing body, the Institut National des Appellations d'Origine (INAO), has also been reviewing the issue.[3]
 
It's strange to me that so many can walk away from this trailer excited. I'm not saying that one should be jaded, like am, or angry; but it just seems so unusual for people to be excited. In a world where people flip their shit when Robert Pattinson is rumored to be the next Batman (yet at the same time are all for signing petitions for Danny DeVito to be the nex Wolverine. Huh?!) A Starbucks cup appearing on Game of Thrones and a disappointing final season drives them to a petition to redo the entire fucking thing, it's strange that people can jump on board this trailer and think that, well, it can only be good, great and awesome.

It was a nice looking trailer, good visuals, and music and the narration was... Meh, mostly because it just feels like it's going to deal with "dark" stuff I'm not interested in when it comes to my Trek and I didn't blow my wad when Picard appeared. I sort of expected it.

But what is there to be excited over? The hovercraft tending to the vineyard? (Which, what was it doing? Any answer I can think of doesn't fit in the Trek world. Watering them? Today such a device might be needed in times of droughts, but in Trek's time weather control would make such a thing impossible. Applying herbicides/pesticides or other such chemicals? Seems to me that such a thing wouldn't be done in Trek's times and other means to protect plants from biological threats would've been found.) A Picard body double grazing his hands on the vines?

It reminds me of that Ghostbusters [3] trailer that came out a few months ago that was some of the first movie's eerie music playing over a shot of a barn with flashes of light and the sound effects of the proton packs as the wind blows a tarp off the rear fender of Ecto-1, not a single shot of the movie has been made, hell is there even a script?! And people declared that was going to be the greatest Ghostbuster movie since the original and that those behind it "got it."

This over-reactionary action of the internet.

A rumor that a former Twilight actor is going to be Batman? Madness and anger!
Meme of Danny DeVito being Wolverine? All for it! Go to Change.gov and make a petition for it to happen!
"Gangsta's Paradise" playing in a video-game movie trailer? You're ruining an entire property. (Ok, that trailer was pretty crappy.)
Tarp blows off the fender of a 60-year-old vehicle? The franchise is BACK baby!
Water bottle barely seen behind someone's foot in a show taking place in medieval times? Remake the entire season!
Hovercraft farm-equipment treats a vineyard? Going to be the best Trek, ever!

Sigh, Internet.
We don't know enough about the automatic weather grid in the future to say it makes watering obsolete. It may not function perfectly, or it's effects may be limited to massive areas this necessitating watering if their zone is scheduled for constant summer sunshine to appease the housing estate 3 miles away.

As for the hype, I noticed a big shift when the Discovery season 2 trailers were released. Yes there was nerdrage, but it was drowned out in enthusiasm. I feel the larger part of the fan base has come to accept and enjoy current-day Trek. Ceetainly after Disco S2, I'm more enthusiastic about Picard than if it had come after S1 (which was harmed by endless BTS turmoil)
 
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