I figured L'rell crewed the ships with either her cousins and the like from House Mokai or with members of Houses loyal to House Mokai
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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I figured L'rell crewed the ships with either her cousins and the like from House Mokai or with members of Houses loyal to House Mokai
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I would love for them to end up in the Enterprise B era or thereabouts, very little is known about it.
Not very likely though.
I thought this was just awful. I‘m only on my phone at this moment, so I won‘t be able to write much. But boy, I did expect so much more from this finale. I‘m kinda dumbfounded at how many seem to have enjoyed this convoluted illogical mess of an episode. I almost feel stupid for not being able to just sit back and enjoy it more. 
Just a couple of thoughts: Why was the ship fully manned when they made such a big point last week of the small group of people staying on the ship? Why did they only begin now to build the suit when they seemed to have so much time last week for all the goodbyes? And: Where and why did they initially see seven red signals, when there had only been five? Why was the red signal above Terralysium of any importance? Why does a door protect Pike from a torpedo blast? Why did they mention Number One‘s name mid-episode only to revert back to mysteriousness in the debriefing? Why couldn‘t they magnetize (or whatever) the floor beneath Leland earlier, like Spock did a couple of episodes ago? Why did they make a point of the crystal being only able to do ONE jump, when they did several this episode? Why did they still have to travel to the future if Control was disabled? And the mother of all (at least for me): Why the hell would they make a secret out of the Discovery and all people onboard? And how the fuck would that even work realistically? I‘m sorry, but this doesn‘t make even a lick of sense.
Sorry, I‘m just so massively disappointed in the finale and what this season, which started out so promising and had so many highlights, has come to. I can‘t honestly say I care how this show continues at this point.
Just a couple of thoughts: Why was the ship fully manned when they made such a big point last week of the small group of people staying on the ship? Why did they only begin now to build the suit when they seemed to have so much time last week for all the goodbyes? And: Where and why did they initially see seven red signals, when there had only been five? Why was the red signal above Terralysium of any importance? Why does a door protect Pike from a torpedo blast? Why did they mention Number One‘s name mid-episode only to revert back to mysteriousness in the debriefing? Why couldn‘t they magnetize (or whatever) the floor beneath Leland earlier, like Spock did a couple of episodes ago? Why did they make a point of the crystal being only able to do ONE jump, when they did several this episode? Why did they still have to travel to the future if Control was disabled? And the mother of all (at least for me): Why the hell would they make a secret out of the Discovery and all people onboard? And how the fuck would that even work realistically? I‘m sorry, but this doesn‘t make even a lick of sense.
Sorry, I‘m just so massively disappointed in the finale and what this season, which started out so promising and had so many highlights, has come to. I can‘t honestly say I care how this show continues at this point.
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Oh but you replied to @Visitor1982 not to me, which is why I didnt reply to it.
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Must admit that would not surprise me at all.
Same goes for Mounts half hearted denials and vague answers.
I aint buying what they are selling.
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Fair enough, there will probably quite a few who are not happy with how it was wrapped up.I thought this was just awful. I‘m only on my phone at this moment, so I won‘t be able to write much. But boy, I did expect so much more from this finale. I‘m kinda dumbfounded at how many seem to have enjoyed this convoluted illogical mess of an episode. I almost feel stupid for not being able to just sit back and enjoy it more.
Just a couple of thoughts: Why was the ship fully manned when they made such a big point last week of the small group of people staying on the ship? Why did they only begin now to build the suit when they seemed to have so much time last week for all the goodbyes? And: Where and why did they initially see seven red signals, when there had only been five? Why was the red signal above Terralysium of any importance? Why does a door protect Pike from a torpedo blast? Why did they mention Number One‘s name mid-episode only to revert back to mysteriousness in the debriefing? Why couldn‘t they magnetize (or whatever) the floor beneath Leland earlier, like Spock did a couple of episodes ago? Why did they make a point of the crystal being only able to do ONE jump, when they did several this episode? Why did they still have to travel to the future if Control was disabled? And the mother of all (at least for me): Why the hell would they make a secret out of the Discovery and all people onboard? And how the fuck would that even work realistically? I‘m sorry, but this doesn‘t make even a lick of sense.
Sorry, I‘m just so massively disappointed in the finale and what this season, which started out so promising and had so many highlights, has come to. I can‘t honestly say I care how this show continues at this point.
I havent seen the episode yet but it looks to me like it could continue in the future era with Control hitching a lift on board the Discovery, I do think a full on reset would have been kinder to some fans but of course it would have then upset other fans, I am good either way though.
Burnham still has to trigger the last two anomalies which is why I dont think its over yet which would also explain why we didnt get to see where or when Discovery ended up.
Last two anomalies?
She triggered the sixth and seventh red signals
No 6 was to guide Discovery through the wormhole
No 7 was to let Spock know she got there safely
I believe her name is Una. Spanish for the number one.
I don't buy the fact there was a big battle where the kelpian's and the Klingons came along and help save the day, and everyone kept their mouths shut.
And was Discovery's spore drive a secret from the rest of Starfleet?
And was Discovery's spore drive a secret from the rest of Starfleet?
I thought this was just awful. I‘m only on my phone at this moment, so I won‘t be able to write much. But boy, I did expect so much more from this finale. I‘m kinda dumbfounded at how many seem to have enjoyed this convoluted illogical mess of an episode. I almost feel stupid for not being able to just sit back and enjoy it more.
Just a couple of thoughts: Why was the ship fully manned when they made such a big point last week of the small group of people staying on the ship? Why did they only begin now to build the suit when they seemed to have so much time last week for all the goodbyes? And: Where and why did they initially see seven red signals, when there had only been five? Why was the red signal above Terralysium of any importance? Why does a door protect Pike from a torpedo blast? Why did they mention Number One‘s name mid-episode only to revert back to mysteriousness in the debriefing? Why couldn‘t they magnetize (or whatever) the floor beneath Leland earlier, like Spock did a couple of episodes ago? Why did they make a point of the crystal being only able to do ONE jump, when they did several this episode? Why did they still have to travel to the future if Control was disabled? And the mother of all (at least for me): Why the hell would they make a secret out of the Discovery and all people onboard? And how the fuck would that even work realistically? I‘m sorry, but this doesn‘t make even a lick of sense.
Sorry, I‘m just so massively disappointed in the finale and what this season, which started out so promising and had so many highlights, has come to. I can‘t honestly say I care how this show continues at this point.
I keep feeling like if I rewatch the season some of this surely has to make sense and I just missed something but also, some of it just won't. Like why only two people felt it necessary to try to apprehend Leland?
Honestly, I agree that this season started out well, clearly took a wild left turn and then they tried to retroactively force some square pegs into round holes at the end. The only way I see Discovery being enjoyable for me again (which it was for probably 1 and 3/4 seasons) is to just move forward and essentially never reference back to the Season 2 mess again. It happened, we move on, we don't talk about it again (ironically the same tactic Spock recommended for all the "canon problems" which honestly, for me, were far more easy to ignore than the plot holes in the finale.)
Well, felt like the kind of finale I'd expect from Discovery. I enjoyed it okay, but this finale (like the last one) has a lot of really weird logic problems and odd decisions.
All the little niggles too, (the stuff that doesn't break the episode but make you go 'Huh?') like the indestructible blast door (the explosion takes out a massive chunk of the saucer but doesn't even singe the door?) or Discovery still going hell-bent for leather into the rift after hearing that Control is already (reasonably easily) neutralized.
Discovery has fumbled two out of two finales so far, for me. Fingers crossed they don't make it three.
All the little niggles too, (the stuff that doesn't break the episode but make you go 'Huh?') like the indestructible blast door (the explosion takes out a massive chunk of the saucer but doesn't even singe the door?) or Discovery still going hell-bent for leather into the rift after hearing that Control is already (reasonably easily) neutralized.
Discovery has fumbled two out of two finales so far, for me. Fingers crossed they don't make it three.
Dang it I did to. Sorry bout that!
I thought this was just awful. I‘m only on my phone at this moment, so I won‘t be able to write much. But boy, I did expect so much more from this finale. I‘m kinda dumbfounded at how many seem to have enjoyed this convoluted illogical mess of an episode. I almost feel stupid for not being able to just sit back and enjoy it more.
There there, that's not stupid at all. OCD? Probably
CONTROLS meat suit puppet of Leland is neutralized. Since CONTROL is a piece of distributed software, it technically can be in any computer at any given time. Doesn't mean it's safe just because you don't see it at a nearby StarShip. It could be playing possum somewhere else and continue replicating itself slowly throughout the network.
You are correct, Pike calls her ”Noona“. That‘s what it says in the subtitles.
Surely the smart thing to do was to incinerate Leland that would have wiped out Control?
I know, but it still felt dramatically odd to me.
Just as the Leland node could be playing possum, and they just willingly took it with them to their secret hiding spot, which seems risky.
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