I honestly don't remember ever seeing dilithium so my brain was always 'it's blue, moron' whenever someone mentioned it
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x12 - "Through the Valley of Shadows"
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I guess someone forgot to tell the scientist who christened a new state of matter 'Time Crystals' that his term sounded to 'retro'. But I can think of no one more suitable to challenge Chaotica than Dr. Chroniton.
Then again, it took the special talents of Voyager to even insult people who enjoy republic serials.
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Or perhaps in the alternative, the time crystals would somehow protect the planet because it's "fated" to be still around in TNG?
Adding two specific details from "Perpetual Infinity" (DSC) onto this, I recall how Gabrielle described the apocalyptic future as her "prison" and how she mentioned the suit was "DNA-strand encoded" to her. Quantum entanglement?
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Elitist my [eye]. Trek made its name by being better than the junk that came before it, and some of the best stuff I like about it come out of the efforts it’s made in that way. Look around you — other fans feel the same. You just called it “junk” too. Stand by that and maybe you’ll see less of it. Hell, that’s why TVs gotten better over time — more “sophisticated” audiences.
That's your right. I don't share it and don't agree with it.
I don't begrudge it. I don't agree with it. I think it is holding Trek to standard that has long since past.
What was V'ger then? How is it scientific?
But, it's ok that DS9 did that, so no big deal.
No, I think it is a double standard when Star Trek doesn't meet personal standards of Trek. This has nothing to do with Orville and that is a rather dismissive attitude of my disagreements.
I like my work.
It literally is not double standard if one applies the same standard to all Trek!
Finally saw it, and was pleasantly surprised by how decent it was
I've been underwhelmed by the last two episodes while people have inexplicably fawned over them
But 2-12 was a very respectable watch, gave it an 8
The Pike scenes on Borath were harrowing, unexpected, and pretty sad to be honest
The end scenes were also good, the realisation that if they stay where they are, they are beaten, so drastic measures are taken
I'm not feeling the chemistry with Spock and Burnham, though I did like the interplay between Tyler and L'Rell
And it was fucking obvious that Control would be the guy they found floating in space, I mean how stupid are they to take him on board the shuttle ?
Good crew interaction scenes in the mess and sick bay, but overall this was Anson Mounts best 46 minutes of Trek.
Enjoyed the last 20 mins immensely.
I've been underwhelmed by the last two episodes while people have inexplicably fawned over them
But 2-12 was a very respectable watch, gave it an 8
The Pike scenes on Borath were harrowing, unexpected, and pretty sad to be honest
The end scenes were also good, the realisation that if they stay where they are, they are beaten, so drastic measures are taken
I'm not feeling the chemistry with Spock and Burnham, though I did like the interplay between Tyler and L'Rell
And it was fucking obvious that Control would be the guy they found floating in space, I mean how stupid are they to take him on board the shuttle ?
Good crew interaction scenes in the mess and sick bay, but overall this was Anson Mounts best 46 minutes of Trek.
Enjoyed the last 20 mins immensely.
buster crabbe is the benchmark - really?
didn't 'the holy one' sell it as waggontrail in outer space or somesuch
If I hear people complaining about other unscientific aspects of Trek like they do with DSC I will find that credible. However, that is not in my experience across multiple Trek boards and chats.
The Great Bird sold it as "Wagon Train to the Stars" which was a specific reference to the Wagon Train TV show. It also had the pitch of "action and adventure with some social commentary" as the science fiction platform would allow.
I actually like trek because of the junk. It's all nonsense to me, but it's fun. Take it less seriously and you might get more enjoyment out of it!
Both load quite rapidly for me, perhaps your connection is ... less then optimal?
Except the mock science applied in the TNG era is venerated and its fake particles of the week and other bad usage, 'chronitons' et al, are held up as the gold standard. TOS is laughed at, but generally the bad science is not pointed out because that would invalidate a lot of what TNG is built on.
Very little improvement in terms of 'science' in science fiction TV has been applied over the past 50 years. Most 'real' science continues to be molded to what fits with whatever story is being written not the other way around, just as Trek always has done. The last TV series I saw that actual adhered to hard science was Star Cops in 1987. Even The Expanse doesn't actually pay more lipservice than Babylon 5 did 25 years ago and offers up its own "magic molecule" to move the plot along.
Any real improvements science fiction TV of late is on the fiction end of things, not in their overall improved adherence to current science of the day. Every science fiction series today fudges their science to serve their stories.
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Chronitrons always sounded pretty hokey to me and I have nothing against 'time crystal' as a word. It is just that time crystal is a real thing, and most definitely doesn't do anything of the sorts like shown in DIS, so in that regard made up nonsense like 'chronitrons' would have been better.
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