Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x12 - "Through the Valley of Shadows"

[SJGardner]

Tyler's hair wiggles

https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1114648570571915270

I think we just learned where Lorca's tribble went.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Tyler's hair wiggles

https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1114648570571915270

Jeez, their Twitter page loads as slow as their website. How do they do that?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Jeez, their Twitter page loads as slow as their website. How do they do that?

time crystals

 

[The Mighty Monkey of Mim]

As we learn more about various time crystals, I wonder if there may be a connection (no pun intended) between how taking the one from Boreth locks Pike inescapably into his fate, and how Gabrielle's use of the one in the Daedalus suit anchors her to a future where Control always wins, no matter how she tries to avert it?

-MMoM

 

[JirinPanthosa]

At this point, if Control is not related to the Borg, the writers are ripping off the Borg. It even has assimilation.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

As we learn more about various time crystals, I wonder if there may be a connection (no pun intended) between how taking the one from Boreth locks Pike inescapably into his fate, and how Gabrielle's use of the one in the Daedalus suit anchors her to a future where Control always wins, no matter how she tries to avert it?

-MMoM

Hmm...so what happens if Boreth and all its time crystals are blown to smithereens by an armada? Would the universe be reset?

 

[BillJ]

I watched it a second time, and upped my score to '6' based on the Pike/Klingon stuff. The Burnham/Spock/Control story was very paint-by-numbers.

It was a lava planet with no oceans...

It is make believe. They are going to go for what looks cool over scientific plausibility, every single time.

Sounds like a good name for a TV show.

Or a rock band.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Hmm...so what happens if Boreth and all its time crystals are blown to smithereens by an armada? Would the universe be reset?

There would be one less planet. Not sure time crystals are a reset button. But you could built a reset machine powered by one.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

It was a lava planet with no oceans...

Nah it had oceans

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Is there an echo in here?

Great minds think alike?

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Well of course they're different, Dilithium is pink. That makes all the difference.

I always thought dilithium was blue. That's why the warp rockets on Starfleet ship glowed blue....

 

[Arpy]

Sure it does, if it gets render inaccessible for some reason. Since the story isn't done yet I'll reserve my judgment as to it "not making sense."

Reserving judgement of things you have an inkling they’ll get to eventually is a thing. I don’t have any inkling this is one of those things. So I’m judging it as I think it deserves.

And I am OK with the ebb and flow. This happens to lean closer to fantasy, which is OK by me.

And that’s fine for you. But please do not begrudge me not finding it fine with me.

TMP had a man merging with a machine. How scientific is that?

Plenty, I think. V’ger wasn’t nuts and bolts. Humans and Cylons had children in nBSG and I have little doubt if Bladerunner were a series replicants and humans wouldn’t have children either.

DS9 had literal deus ex machina with the Dominion fleet. That's fine though since DS9 was generally a good series. We can forgive that slip-up.

That was another facepalm, yeah.

But, DSC introducing new tech? Simply too much...

Not new tech. Bad tech. And for it, it receives appropriate reaction. But please, keep thinking this is just hater talk. Yeah, Orville Forever, okay, uh-huh.

 

[BillJ]

I always thought dilithium was blue.

Pink the times I saw it.

 

[Woulfe]

Blue Warp Nacelles ? Do we really want to start a 1701 page topic based on a StarShip as designed by a comity ? ;-)

 

[BillJ]

Blue Warp Nacelles ? Do we really want to start a 1701 page topic based on a StarShip as designed by a comity ? ;-)

They were all designed by committee. Jefferies didn't have carte blanche to do whatever he wanted. He had superiors who had to sign off on them.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

The sillier the tech and the greater the frequency of, the harder it is on the suspension of disbelief.


As is bad fiction.

Stop being so elitist star trek is all about junk science and you know it. It's a show where there is sound in space, all the aliens are humanoid and can breed with each other and space ships behave like aircraft. Scientifically star trek is garbage, but it's fun garbage.

 

[Woulfe]

They were all designed by committee. Jefferies didn't have carte blanche to do whatever he wanted. He had superiors who had to sign off on them.

Using Mexican hat-ware as the saucer section even ?

 

[Nyotarules]

Oh crap, just happened to me this morning too...

Don't touch the crystals

 

[plynch]

What you describe is the very model of boilerplate writing. I can't imagine how that should be considered 'it works' in any genre of fiction.

Sorry -- the silly solution onscreen: that's what always works. I was unclear. No, it's not great writing. At. All. As soon as anyone says, "Maybe we could . . ." You can turn the TV off, because it's going to work.

I just prefer techno magic to magic magic. Someone upthread wrote Time Crystals has a retro sound. Yes, in a Bride of Chaotica sense. Then the holodeck breaks. (Then they try some technobabble fix and it works, ha ha. Life is recursive!)

 

[GNDN18]

Pink the times I saw it.