Them going to Borath and Section 31 ships heading towards Discovery
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x11 - "Perpetual Infinity"
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A new signal appears over Boreth, and we see baby TyVoq.
I hope we get a D7 next week then.
The more they talk about the control the less interesting this story arc become for me. Unfortunately this will continue to the end of the season.
So Mama Burnham home base is 950 years in the future when control has destroyed everything. Doesn't quite match up with Calypso. So Calypso must happen after they restore the timeline.
How does Mama Burnham know about all the things that happened to her daughter? Does the Angel suit let her see past events, or she jumped many times but somehow stayed hidden and just watched.
I like the actress playing Mama Burnham.
"Struggle is pointless" isn't as good as "Resistance is Futile", but if Leland is the Borg King he will improve the phrase in the future.
So Mama Burnham home base is 950 years in the future when control has destroyed everything. Doesn't quite match up with Calypso. So Calypso must happen after they restore the timeline.
How does Mama Burnham know about all the things that happened to her daughter? Does the Angel suit let her see past events, or she jumped many times but somehow stayed hidden and just watched.
I like the actress playing Mama Burnham.
"Struggle is pointless" isn't as good as "Resistance is Futile", but if Leland is the Borg King he will improve the phrase in the future.
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I wonder what the original plan for S2 was.
Because this is pretty abysmal.
Control had no need to do all these weird things if all it wanted was the Sphere data. The ship would have needed repairs sooner or later, and it can grab it in a Starbase. Control could have issued the order as 'XYZ section of Starfleet wants to study the data.' Perfectly legitimate.
The data storage thing is massively weird too. Control is already sentient right now. It doesn't really need all the Sphere data.
The "Hell yeah" was out of place not just because of the vernacular, but also because the placement doesn't make sense.
Easily the worst episode of the series.
Because this is pretty abysmal.
Control had no need to do all these weird things if all it wanted was the Sphere data. The ship would have needed repairs sooner or later, and it can grab it in a Starbase. Control could have issued the order as 'XYZ section of Starfleet wants to study the data.' Perfectly legitimate.
The data storage thing is massively weird too. Control is already sentient right now. It doesn't really need all the Sphere data.
The "Hell yeah" was out of place not just because of the vernacular, but also because the placement doesn't make sense.
Easily the worst episode of the series.
I haven't been this bored since Enterprise season 2. More importantly, I've completely stopped caring. Worst of all, I stopped watching. For the first time in the show's run, I turned to read the news while the show was relegated to background fodder.
This new formula of 35 minutes of talking heads saying nothing of interest followed by 10 minutes of whizbang action accentuated by uninspired melodrama just isn't working for me. If they don't either bring back the fun from the early part of this season or the whack-a-doodle absurdity of last season, I'll probably call it quits.
Now that I think on it, throwing the whole thing in the bin and starting anew next season might not be such a bad idea.
This new formula of 35 minutes of talking heads saying nothing of interest followed by 10 minutes of whizbang action accentuated by uninspired melodrama just isn't working for me. If they don't either bring back the fun from the early part of this season or the whack-a-doodle absurdity of last season, I'll probably call it quits.
Now that I think on it, throwing the whole thing in the bin and starting anew next season might not be such a bad idea.
So with the amount o f data control didn't get, is the future safe?
Does Dr. Burnham suffocate in space? Or is she back on her hidey planet in the future?
She alluded to moving that colony to ne w eden: Shout out to season arc #1 to get us off the writers' backs, but I bet it is dropped now. Ho w and why would she do that? How was she watching Burnham without making a big, red wormhole racket?
Man, I hope they don't try to shoehorn this into Calypso. That is so great, just let it be a short story based on DSC.
Does Dr. Burnham suffocate in space? Or is she back on her hidey planet in the future?
She alluded to moving that colony to ne w eden: Shout out to season arc #1 to get us off the writers' backs, but I bet it is dropped now. Ho w and why would she do that? How was she watching Burnham without making a big, red wormhole racket?
Man, I hope they don't try to shoehorn this into Calypso. That is so great, just let it be a short story based on DSC.
I loved this episode, especially the scenes with Burnham and her mother and Burnham and Spock. Dr. Burnham is great. I also enjoyed Mirror Georgiou. The time suit makes Star Trek sense, while leaving room for other possibilities for the Seven Signals.
Completely agreed. I'm about 2/3 of the way through the episode and this is nonsense. It's like the worst indulgences of modern Doctor Who, but untethered from any kind of emotional reality.
Like, the mission logs from Michael's mom seem to be included just to plug logic gaps from earlier in the season – only they don't, not really. They've mentioned New Eden and child!Spock and all that jazz, but I still have no idea what motivated Michael's mom to do what she did the way she did. "The future can be altered?" How does moving a church 20,000 light years prove that? "He's the only one who can understand my existence?" (or whatever her words were, I'm paraphrasing.) Well...nobody seems to have any issue understanding your situation now. It's not that complicated. I don't understand the internal logic of this, nor what it means for the characters. It's just nonsense that fills time.
If they want me to care about Momham's journey, maybe dedicate an episode to her POV, and show us her journey from start to being captured by Discovery. Show us why she made the choices the made, and what they mean to her. Because right now this is gibberish.
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I think the fact that Michael's mother's base of operations was in the 33rd century, same as Calypso, is an indication that it will tie in.
Maybe I need to watch again, because I didn't get that, either. It's not like Discovery was going to guard that data. Pike compared it to the Dead Sea Scrolls, said everyone would be studying it for years.
And I still don't understand where Dr. Burnham got the ability to move the church or revive Burnham. She doesn't seem to be taking tech from the future, just jumping around.
When Control took control of Leland, it reminded me of a an event from the Matrix series, when Agent Smith gained control over a Human so he could infilitrate the Human society.
The star was named Alpha Lupi. It has a real world counterpart.
The star was named Alpha Lupi. It has a real world counterpart.
It seemed that Mama Burnham eventually found a way to be sent to Terralysium every time she snaps back, so I'm thinking she'll be fine.
Also, the Discovery seems to have fired torpedoes from its nacelles.
Also, the Discovery seems to have fired torpedoes from its nacelles.
They could have just gone and had adventures with Anson/Pike and Peck/Spock on DSC for some reason. But noooo, we get a convoluted puzzle box twisted around when producers changed.
As David Gerrold taught me in World of ST, where there is no real peril, there is no drama. I k now the future will exist. It's not in jeopardy. Where did the fun S2 go?
As David Gerrold taught me in World of ST, where there is no real peril, there is no drama. I k now the future will exist. It's not in jeopardy. Where did the fun S2 go?
I thought that as well but I think it came from the struts.
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