Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x06 - "The Sound of Thunder"

[Midquest]

The obvious meaning of the title is that time travel is involved, but it could also be something else.

In Bradbury's short story, the sounds of thunder are the sounds of a predator. First, it's (a) the sound of the T-Rex coming (this use of thunder happens four times), and (b) the sound of a gun executing someone. In the last, most famous case, I'd say it's also about inevitability.

If they're thinking of the story more broadly, it might just be about how small acts start a rockslide of events.

Or it might be time travel! This has been literary analysis hour, sorry.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Finally.

Spoiler

It's probably going to be a hologram or illusion or dream or katric fever or a scene that they cut from the episode and put in Ep 8...

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah THUNDER!
Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah THUNDER!
Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah THUNDER!

Get pumped!

I can more-than-almost hear Angus Young's guitar intro in my head right now.

♪♫ You've been..Thunderstruck ♪♫

 

[Noname Given]

I may skip over this episode and wait for Spock to show up next week, or whenever he does. Like the Ferengi centered episodes on DS9 I skip, this one with the Saru-ites or whatever they are is not appealing to me at all. I can't stand Saru and a whole episode full of others like him is probably something I'll never miss.

Right there with you in that I personally have never cared for the character of 'Saru' or his Cattle brethren. That said, I'll still give this episode a viewing as I do want to see if they explain the inconsistencies WRT how he explained his people's evolution, their combat abilities, etc; when in the end with said Short Trek episode; they were now simply docile meat animals waiting to be called to slaughter - and had been now for generations (IE you'd think their 'defense' abilities would begin to be bred out of them, etc.)

But yeah, I personally hope this is the last 'Saru-centric' episode we get. (Hell, in 80 episodes of TOS Spock only really got two episodes related directly to Vulcan society and his personal family) and this will already be the second 'Saru-centric' episode in 21 episodes of ST: D - and the third one if you count the Short Trek episode.

And this isn't in any way a slight against the actor, Doug Jones, who does an amazing performance under all that plastic - but I just don't care for the character he plays (in concept or as written.)

 

[Draculasaurus]

...Why is it "Hugh" rather than "Culber"? (Much less "Dr. Culber"!)

Come to think of it, why was it always "Geordi" rather than "LaForge" in TNG blurbs? Is this some sort of a racial thing? (But isn't it always "Burnham" rather than "Michael"? You know, just as with "Tilly" rather than "Sylvia"?)

Inquiring/ignorant minds want to learn.

Timo Saloniemi

I would guess that in Geordi's case, deliberately or not, it was a reassuring phonetic equivalent to "Scotty".

 

[Midquest]

Right there with you in that I personally have never cared for the character of 'Saru' or his Cattle brethren. That said, I'll still give this episode a viewing as I do want to see if they explain the inconsistencies WRT how he explained his people's evolution, their combat abilities, etc; when in the end with said Short Trek episode; they were now simply docile meat animals waiting to be called to slaughter - and had been now for generations (IE you'd think their 'defense' abilities would begin to be bred out of them, etc.)

This is the first I've heard about this. What kind of inconsistencies? I felt it all made a lot of sense--Saru's people are fast-moving and capable of defending themselves, like cattle, and like cattle they have a number of pronounced, visible fear responses. It seems that both cows and Kelpians are effectively marched docilely to slaughter despite complex emotional lives and an ability to defend themselves.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I would guess that in Geordi's case, deliberately or not, it was a reassuring phonetic equivalent to "Scotty".

I always refer to "Hugh" as Culber, but I think the blurb was unconsciously saying it's a personal recovery, so using his personal name, rather than an official adventure.

He'll probably be referred to as Hugh onscreen now that he won't be working and we'll see his therapy/personal life.

I know in the past, there's been some accusations of sexism with regard to first name/last name use amongst fans. This wouldn't apply to Geordi or Hugh. I think Geordi is such an odd first name that it's naturally used more.

I strive to refer to characters consistently by last name, unless I need to differentiate (i.e. Jake or Wesley).

 

[Spider]

Right there with you in that I personally have never cared for the character of 'Saru' or his Cattle brethren. That said, I'll still give this episode a viewing as I do want to see if they explain the inconsistencies WRT how he explained his people's evolution, their combat abilities, etc; when in the end with said Short Trek episode; they were now simply docile meat animals waiting to be called to slaughter - and had been now for generations (IE you'd think their 'defense' abilities would begin to be bred out of them, etc.)

But yeah, I personally hope this is the last 'Saru-centric' episode we get. (Hell, in 80 episodes of TOS Spock only really got two episodes related directly to Vulcan society and his personal family) and this will already be the second 'Saru-centric' episode in 21 episodes of ST: D - and the third one if you count the Short Trek episode.

And this isn't in any way a slight against the actor, Doug Jones, who does an amazing performance under all that plastic - but I just don't care for the character he plays (in concept or as written.)

The only reason I have CBSAA is to watch Discovery, so at some point I'll end up watching this episode. More than likely I'll be fast forwarding through parts of it. The only reason I picked CBSAA up for this Discovery season is Pike, Spock and Number One. Otherwise I'm not interested in Discovery's main characters. I wish that were different, but I'm patient and hope that CBSAA eventually comes up with a Star Trek series I enjoy. They apparently plan to make several of them, odds are one of them I'll like. LOL

 

[DaveyNY]

I always refer to "Hugh" as Culber, but I think the blurb was unconsciously saying it's a personal recovery, so using his personal name, rather than an official adventure.

He'll probably be referred to as Hugh onscreen now that he won't be working and we'll see his therapy/personal life.

I know in the past, there's been some accusations of sexism with regard to first name/last name use amongst fans. This wouldn't apply to Geordi or Hugh. I think Geordi is such an odd first name that it's naturally used more.

I strive to refer to characters consistently by last name, unless I need to differentiate (i.e. Jake or Wesley).

Picard pretty much used last names with all of his crew in official capacities.
(or their title ie: Counselor Troi ; Commander Riker; Mr. LaForge)
Of course DATA, was called Commander many times also.

Riker was more of a first name kinda guy when talking to the crew.

Kirk was always using first names with his senior staff and last names (+rank) with the rest of the crew.

 

[eschaton]

As an aside, why do some people call Culber Culbert? Is it translated that in some foreign countries?

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

The only reason I have CBSAA is to watch Discovery, so at some point I'll end up watching this episode. More than likely I'll be fast forwarding through parts of it. The only reason I picked CBSAA up for this Discovery season is Pike, Spock and Number One. Otherwise I'm not interested in Discovery's main characters. I wish that were different, but I'm patient and hope that CBSAA eventually comes up with a Star Trek series I enjoy. They apparently plan to make several of them, odds are one of them I'll like. LOL

To each his own, but I'm quickly finding that Saru's character is starting to become just as compelling as Pike and Spock (The DSC version of Pike, since The Cage ended with the character being still largely a blank slate; and the non-DSC version of Spock, since we have not yet met the DSC version).

Saru was OK last season, but his character has been knocking my socks off this season. He's becoming one of the things I looked forward to each week.

edit: spelling

 

[eschaton]

I'd argue Saru is - to a significant degree - the only non-Burnham character who has been really given much characterization to date this season. Everyone else just has these tiny snatches here and there, but are still more functioning as plot devices than fully-realized characters.

 

[Spider]

To each his own, but I'm quickly finding that Saru's character is starting to become just as compelling as Pike and Spock (The DSC version of Pike, since The Cage ended with the character being still largely a blank slate; and the non-DSC version of Spock, since we have not yet met the DSC version).

Saru was OK last season, but his character has been knocking my socks of this season. He's becoming one of the things I looked forward to each week.

Exactly, "to each his own". I don't criticize other folks taste in Star Trek, because mine can be as narrow (or broad) as anyone's. There are things I do like about Discovery, unfortunately none of them are the main characters.

 

[Tuskin38]

Probably a big spoiler

Spoiler

The Community Manager for Star Trek Online hinted that this episode might explain why CBS won’t let them use Kelpien’s in their 25th century stories.

 

[Lord Garth]

Probably a big spoiler

Spoiler

The Community Manager for Star Trek Online hinted that this episode might explain why CBS won’t let them use Kelpien’s in their 25th century stories.

Spoiler

I hope it's not because they're all slaughtered. I'd rather it just be they stay pre-warp. On the other end, maybe they transform into some higher form of life.

 

[Tuskin38]

Spoiler

I hope it's not because they're all slaughtered. I'd rather it just be they stay pre-warp. On the other end, maybe they transform into some higher form of life.

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Or maybe the Red Angels save them and move them somewhere else like they did with those WW3 humans.

 

[marlboro]

Looks like a Slender Man Invasion colonoscopy.

fyp

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The Ba'ul ship will have a sign that looks like this:

KELPIEN SAFARI INC.
SAFARIS TO ANY VILLAGE ON KAMINAR
YOU NAME THE KELPIEN
WE TAKE YOU THERE
YOU EAT IT

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Spoiler

I hope it's not because they're all slaughtered. I'd rather it just be they stay pre-warp. On the other end, maybe they transform into some higher form of life.

Spoiler

I think they will stay pre-warp.

I'm not convinced that Saru is going there to spill the beans about the Federation to all of his people. I think he's going to do the bare minimum to get the "truth" of the vahar'ai to his people, but do so without violating the Prime Directive (much).

 

[IMC Headquarters]

The Ba'ul ship will have a sign that looks like this:

KELPIEN SAFARI INC.
SAFARIS TO ANY VILLAGE ON KAMINAR
YOU NAME THE KELPIEN
WE TAKE YOU THERE
YOU EAT IT

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