I get that. Everyone's got their own threshold of how much change is too much.
Fiction within an intricately established universe which, until now, has depicted a fairly consistent version of it's own history - especially visually.
Spoilers An easy explanation for the klingon ship design in Season 1
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I guess what I'm saying is (and doing so respectfully from one Trek BBS member to another
) is that I don't think they should call it a reboot just because there are a subset of viewers -- a subset who, I believe, are a minority -- who feel that too much change has occurred to believe this show is part of the same continuity as TOS, TNG, etc.That is, I don't think it is unreasonable for the producers of this show to NOT call it a reboot.
Uh, yes. they have.
Ding. Canon debates are always stupid, because the concept of canon and continuity only matters to a single group, the fans. If the fans decide a story isn't canon and don't discuss it as canon, then effectively in every way that matters, it isn't canon, and you often later on see that reflected by the "official" writers of the show as well. All canon by it's very nature is headcanon and even in Star Trek we've always seen this as yeah something is "Technically canon" but completely ignored by the fandom to the point you even get arguments about it's canon or not (Sybok and STV for example).
I suspect in 5 years time, Discovery will be treated as it's own thing by the fandom not part of the Prime Universe, hell it already is now by much of the fandom, so effectively, when discussing it in those spaces, it will just be an unwritten rule it's not prime canon and thus, while you are in those spaces, it effectively won't be canon, because again, canon only matters to the fans.
You should watch the special features for Discovery season 1. They all mention canon to the point of obsession.
Nah. I'm not in his league.You and Tuskin should get together and go bowling.
Everyone should bowl more.
They changed things for TMP because they had a feature film budget and needed things to look better on the big screen. If TMP had never happened and they went with Star Trek Phase II as originally planned, the show wouldn’t have looked much different from TOS.
I dunno, the pictures of what sets they actually completed for Phase II looked pretty TMP.
DSC has the same excuse, looks better in HD.
The only set that looks like TMP is the bridge. The hallways, uniforms, props, etc. are straight out of TOS.
They look pretty different to me.
They also modified the uniforms for the women making the skirts longer and adding sleeveless variants. Not too different than the Kelvin uniforms.
Fixed that for you.
that tricorder thing looks good. are there any good sources for images of the props that got made?They look pretty different to me.
They also modified the uniforms for the women making the skirts longer and adding sleeveless variants. Not too different than the Kelvin uniforms.
I haven't found any yet.
There's a photo floating around this site somewhere of a Phase II corridor, which was a more detailed version of the TOS ones. Also the (admittedly unfinished) P2 Enterprise and Klingon ship models had much less detail than the movie versions.They look pretty different to me.
They also modified the uniforms for the women making the skirts longer and adding sleeveless variants. Not too different than the Kelvin uniforms.
Just having the classic uniforms (or slight variations of) would have been a huge chunk of direct continuity with TOS.
Not being a fan of the DISCO unis, I have to agree
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