Thought it was pretty weak. Bad TNG with forehead aliens and obvious allegories.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x02 - "New Eden"
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What’s this about the Orville?
That's why I really enjoyed this! It really felt like classic space opera to me, TNG-like, but still with that sense of it being its own show. Awesome episode!
I thought the same. I didn't finish it and switched over to The Good Place.
You only have to look at what has happend on Earth when advanced cultures contact primitive cultures to see why the PD should be applied to a human colony. Especially one filled with humans who not only are descended from pre-warp earth but have lost any understanding of technology. They've been separated from Earth for 200 years, and have become a distinct culture, they may also be on a different evolutionary path to the rest of the human race. In my view, Pike was 100% right to invoke the prime directive.
The moments when Pike absolutely put his foot down and insisted that they follow the Prime Directive was pure Jeffrey Hunter Captain Pike. By the rules, "don't question my orders" command authority given with a serious face and expected to be adhered to.
So has this post.
I like Discovery a lot but while it was new and different, it wasn't particularly innovative and had plenty of problems. Season 2 is a vast improvement.
I hope you realise that you're actually starting to sound like those fans you criticise.
For myself, putting aside the terrible acting of SMG, I was pleasantly surprised by this episode. Most lost Earth colony episodes are average, with some downright being bad, like the Irish colony one from the 2nd season of TNG or the genetically perfect beings from the 5th season of TNG. Those were torturous.
You may not have enjoyed the way she played the character, but she is not a "terrible" actor.
"Terrible" actors Do Not Normally Get Hired, nor on average do they continue to keep their job if they are terrible.
(and this is particularly true of Large Hollywood TV/Movie productions)
It annoys the Hell out of me when couch critics say crap like this.
Until you've actually tried to do it for yourself and have proof of that, you have no basis to completely condemn a person's abilities as if it is an actuality.
Especially when it comes to Artistry.
If you don't like how it's being done, then say that, but don't espouse your Feelings as Fact.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point. I realize, I'm disagreeing with a subjective opinion, so I apologize in advance.
But I don't think Discovery Season 1 was predictable in the slightest. It had twists and turns from chaotic BTS drama and a change in the overall story arc at some point halfway through the season.
Many predicted Mirror Lorca, true, and Tyler was especially telegraphed (especially due to the odd actor hiding), but beyond that, things like the end of the Klingon War and the death of Culber, and Tyler's eventual reveal in the midst of the MU saga were unpredicted surprises, generally due to backstage rewrites.
The Enterprise cliffhanger wasn't part of the original plan, which means this entire Season 2 plotline is the work of Kurtzman, Berg, and Harberts based off the cliffhanger they placed.
And I disagree with you. Discovery appears to be devoting an entire season to having the crew investigate/deal with an existential threat. You could say that the odd episode or even The Motion Picture trod this territory, but a whole season? The first season went to unexpected places. No reason to think that this one won't, at least not yet. And the cliffhanger means nothing. You didn't need the Enterprise or Pike specifically to create a season like what they are exploring. Or even Spock for that matter.
An arc about Red Angels, and the extended search for them, is something Star Trek has never done before.
Why does it matter that she isn't part of the bridge crew?
Some people think that Star Trek should be only about the bridge crew because that's just the way they remember it was.
It looks like we might not be getting a new signal in the next one, from the preview it looks like Burnham will be dealing with Spock and we'll see what's going on with the Klingons.
My guess right now as to the rest of the season is that we'll get a few more episodes of them investigating signals, and then about about halfway through we'll get the reveal as to who/what the real threat is, and then the story will shift to focus on that. The one thing I'm most curious about now is how this all ties into the Klingons and Saru's sister.
I wonder if people had the same problems with Quark and Odo being main characters despite being a civilian and chief of security for only the Promenade, or if DS9 gets a pass on account of being a space station and commercial hub.
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