And if he declined Geogiou’s offer to take him away, would that be a failed abduction?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x02 - "New Eden"
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Are we sure of that, though? Just as the High Priestess and the others see the transport beam in effect there's a closeup of Pike's or Burnham's face as it dematerializes. It's possible that in the final moments before they rematerialized aboard Discovery that Pike or Michael noticed that they'd seen them beaming.
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I took away from their expressions that they did realize it as the dematerialization process had just begun. While it shouldn't be possible to do that while being broken down to one's subatomic components, Star Trek has played fast and loose with that for years. I assumed that they did see the villagers witness them leaving.
They showed a Selat on ENT S4 - "The Forge" that looked exactly the way it was depicted in TAS. Also, T'Pol mentioned doing her own version of the Vulcan "Kahs-wan" trial (that traditionally Vulcan males undertake as a test of manhood) <--- And the "Kahs-wan" was only previously mentioned in TAS.
I like if they noticed the inhabitants noticed them being out, it would be the ultimate "Oh shit!" moment. It's not like they could go down and try to "fix" it because that would make it even worse.
I read it as everyone except Jacob thought that Pike was rescued by Angels. Whereas Jacob would think, "I knew it!"
I read it as everyone except Jacob thought that Pike was rescued by Angels. Whereas Jacob would think, "I knew it!"
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Yeah, and we know from "Realm of Fear(TNG)" that Reg Barclay could see while suspended inside a transporter beam and even see outside the beam into the surrounding transporter room. So Pike or Burnham seeing the reactions on their faces just as they begin transporting back up to the ship wouldn't be out of line for the way the technology has been portrayed over the years.
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Yep. That said, I hated "Realm of Fear."
I liked it as a return to warmth and light, a sign of hope for the village and its future.
"Where did you get this power generator?"
"It came with the First Saved."
"No, it didn't. This entire community has known the contents of their belongings for over two hundred years."
"I built it then."
"Whatever. Just send some of that juice over to my home, will you? The wife wants to try a new...device."
"It came with the First Saved."
"No, it didn't. This entire community has known the contents of their belongings for over two hundred years."
"I built it then."
"Whatever. Just send some of that juice over to my home, will you? The wife wants to try a new...device."
"Finally, I can cook these two hundred year old hot pockets!"
I’ve always laughed (in an MST3K way) at the idea in that TNG episode that people on the pad are aware of what’s going on around them while their molecules are being taken apart. Part of me says “how in the hell can that happen, even in-universe?!”
But then I repeat to myself it’s just a show, and I should really just relax.
WORLD WAR III WAS JUSTIFIED.
Which makes me wonder what Terralysium would be like later in its history, during the TOS Movie Era or even the TNG Era. They're deep inside the Beta Quadrant and even the starships of Picard's, Sisko's and Janeway's time would take decades to travel 51,000+ light years without a wormhole, transwarp conduits or other similar technology, so I wouldn't expect any Starfleet crews to ever again stumble on their planet unless there's an accident or pure happenstance.
That said, at some point Terralysium might develop space travel of its own. Even a warp engine. Who knows? They're at worst in a 19th century state of technology in this episode. Add two or three centuries to that and you could have a viable faster-than-light spacecraft that goes out into space in search of Earth.
That said, at some point Terralysium might develop space travel of its own. Even a warp engine. Who knows? They're at worst in a 19th century state of technology in this episode. Add two or three centuries to that and you could have a viable faster-than-light spacecraft that goes out into space in search of Earth.
It's already been two centuries since they were deposited on Terralysium. I think they'd need incentive to develop the type of rocket/explosion technology necessary to get into space and then develop whatever power source they need just to get to the point of being able to warp space. And they same pretty fine with where they are. So I don't think they'd develop warp drive.
Maybe, maybe they might be visited or observed once Starfleet perfects slipstream drive and can easily travel between Quadrants. So it might be a thing at the time of the Picard Series. But I'm not holding my breath on ever seeing them again.
I tend to ignore the numerical rating polls for episodes because I don't think they're useful unless everyone is on the same page. Not only do you have to know what does a 5 mean but is a 10 obtainable or the flawless height of perfection. Is the scale in comparison to other episodes in the series or compared to television programs as a whole? Often times despite there being a 1-10 scale in reality everything is judged between say 6 and 9 or whatever.
I think it can be useful once you learn how a particular individual or organization scores and thus you can interpret the scores. Someone not used to video game reviews may see a 7 as an above average game whereas a veteran gamer might not even bother reading a review of such a poorly received game.
The problem is exasperated with reader polls is it's difficult to narrow down what logic is being applied to the judging criteria by the participants. I think it helps when a site has its own reviewer(s) who applies scores in a consistent way. Readers seem to pick up on those scores and scale their scores against that rating instead of just throwing out 9s and 10s and its more useful.
We never again saw the Native American planet colonized by the Preservers, the Briori Homeworld or the Skagaran planet with the Old West American culture so I wouldn't be surprised. Hell, we never even went back to visit Sigma Iotia II and that was a world that one book on 20th century mobsters turned into a giant Godfather cosplay. McCoy even left his communicator back there and possibly contaminated the planet even worse than the 22nd century U.S.S. Horizon did.
But they already have 21st Century Knowledge up to the point of the war.
They chose not to advance themselves due to the "Miracle" of being transported from Earth just as (they thought) it was destroyed.
Now that they have in their midst, the knowledge that Earth is still around, they will probably move quite quickly toward technological advancement.
But it will be counterbalanced with their combined religious beliefs.
HOLY CHIT!
A thought just occurred to me...
What if this is the Society/Planet that Craft in "CALYPSO" is from????
<mind blown>
That was a pitched as an idea for DS9's TOS 30th Anniversary episode, the Iotians would have been imitating the Enterprise crew similar to how they were imitating gangsters in TOS.
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