Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

[Nerys Myk]

That's not canon!

Are you saying Carl Spock isn't canon????

 

[Nyotarules]

Not if it contradicts how they looked before.
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If you can do it with Klingons you can do it with anyone.

 

[Tuskin38]

If you can do it with Klingons you can do it with anyone.

They hardly did with the Klingons, just added some more detail. Plus they're getting hair this season.

 

[fireproof78]

Though, to be fair, if you would make a series set on an actual, modern day aircraft carrier, space station or science base - they would have the same amount of crazy people. That's simply how drama works.

True, but as much as I appreciate real world parallels in Star Trek, I simply disagree with the notion that Starfleet officers somehow are the picture of mental health and that the same requirements are to levied at them as in real world military. And, this coming from me, a guy who loves realism in fiction O_o

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Are you saying Carl Spock isn't canon????

Where's 'cooleddie74' when we need him?

 

[Jadeb]

So, how do we think the Enterprise and Number One fit into the season going forward? Do we think there's anything more to Enterprise having this unexplained systems failure...or was it just an easy plot gimmick?

I think it will have implications for the plot/Discovery but that we won’t see much more of the Enterprise until the end. I could see Jet having to cobble together something to save the day after the Discovery or other vital technology suffers a similar failure.

The plot happened upon an enterprising super engineer for a reason, I expect.

 

[Tuskin38]

Well Number One might be in Episode 4.

 

[Vger23]

I think it will have implications for the plot/Discovery but that we won’t see much more of the Enterprise until the end. I could see Jet having to cobble together something to save the day after the Discovery or other vital technology suffers a similar failure.

The plot happened upon an enterprising super engineer for a reason.

Do you think it's implied that the systems failure is part of the overarching mystery? They DO make a rather obvious point of discussing how resilient Constitution-class ships are.

Fanwank / cheap plot device? Or something deeper to be explored later?

 

[Tim Thomason]

Well Number One might be in Episode 4.

Heads up. I think she might be wearing a wig.

 

[Vger23]

Heads up. I think she might be wearing a wig.

You silly, silly man.

 

[Tuskin38]

Do you think it's implied that the systems failure is part of the overarching mystery? They DO make a rather obvious point of discussing how resilient Constitution-class ships are.

Fanwank / cheap plot device? Or something deeper to be explored later?

Maybe Spock sabotaged the ship before he left.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Heads up. I think she might be wearing a wig.

*spit take*

 

[Nyotarules]

I get it, but it seems to me that they wanted Kim Cattrall to wear her hair (wig?) the way she did because her natural hair didn't look Vulcan enough, and they wanted Jolene Blalock to cut her hair because her natural hair didn't look Vulcan enough, and they wanted SMG's hair to be straightened because her natural hair didn't look Vulcan enough.

I'm not sure how Tim Russ got away with it, seeing that almost all other actors playing Vulcan males in the 24th century had bowl cuts or were given terrible wigs to wear.

Were the white actors expected to change the texture of their hair? I do not think so.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

So, how do we think the Enterprise and Number One fit into the season going forward? Do we think there's anything more to Enterprise having this unexplained systems failure...or was it just an easy plot gimmick?

I really hope that they explain what happened to the ship, otherwise that is the easiest of easy plot gimmicks. I'm already struggling to figure out why he would need to bring Number One over in the first place.

 

[Rahul]

True, but as much as I appreciate real world parallels in Star Trek, I simply disagree with the notion that Starfleet officers somehow are the picture of mental health and that the same requirements are to levied at them as in real world military. And, this coming from me, a guy who loves realism in fiction O_o

I don't know. Considering the amount of shit they have to deal with on a regular basis - they stay remarkably sane!

Like, I can easily see professional SEALS blow a fuse after two weeks of crazy weird shit happening to them on the Voyager...

 

[Tim Thomason]

Do you think it's implied that the systems failure is part of the overarching mystery? They DO make a rather obvious point of discussing how resilient Constitution-class ships are.

Fanwank / cheap plot device? Or something deeper to be explored later?

If the Red Angel can cause 7 large bursts to be seen across thousands of light years, and disrupt the gravity well of an asteroid, and do something with baryon particles or whatever, and telepathically drive Spock mad, and possibly start the same with Burnham even though she's not a telepath, then she can probably turn off a starship investigating her.

 

[Longinus]

The TNG solution would have been to have Geordi and Data sitting in a conference room talking about remodulating the deflector array by reversing polarity through the phase inducers to emit an inverse particle beam, reducing the force of gravity and mass, and thereby allowing a modified tractor beam to deflect the asteroid just enough so that it stays out of the gravimetric sheer of the pulsar.

I think I would have preferred that. These sort of modern special effects laden, highly choreographed action scenes just bore me to tears. They're just so obviously fake that there is no any feeling of danger. I think lower paced space diving scene with less CGI rocks and more suspense would have worked better.

 

[dinzy]

I find Tilly absolutely unnerving. Are there no psychological evaluations in the future? How can someone like her get into command training at all? Anyone would freak out with a colleague like this around...

Are you kidding me? Someone who is enthusiastic, curious, friendly, technically competent, but a little bit awkward and you think people in general would freak out? She would be put on a leadership track in most large companies.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I don't know. Considering the amount of shit they have to deal with on a regular basis - they stay remarkably sane!

Like, I can easily see professional SEALS blow a fuse after two weeks of crazy weird shit happening to them on the Voyager...

Well, Voyager had about 30 holodecks so they had options for chilling out.

 

[Vger23]

I think I would have preferred that. These sort of modern special effects laden, highly choreographed action scenes just bore me to tears. They're just so obviously fake that there is no any feeling of danger. I think lower paced space diving scene with less CGI rocks and more suspense would have worked better.

To each their own. If I wanted no to watch people sitting in a room and politely spouting (made-up) tech jargon in the guise of "dramatic problem solving" I'd simply go to work. Nothing entertaining about it.