Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

[Rahul]

Even Vulcans of the same race shouldn’t all have the same hairstyles.

I would even go so far: Not every alien(!) of a single race should have the same hairstyle!

No matter if it's only bald Klingons, or only Klingons with long Barbarian hair - give us both!
And Vulcans and Romulans with lush, long hair.

 

[fireproof78]

No, I haven't. But I work in a job with a command structure. And no one like Tilly would make it through the tests to get into command training.

Again, just look at all the Starfleet officers we have seen. They are not the picture of mental health, with officers like Decker, Tracey, Garth of Izar, as well as people taking over insane asylums and that's just in TOS!

 

[Tuskin38]

I would even go so far: Not every alien(!) of a single race should have the same hairstyle!

No matter if it's only bald Klingons, or only Klingons with long Barbarian hair - give us both!
And Vulcans and Romulans with lush, long hair.

Well, Saavik had long hair.

 

[Nyotarules]

I would even go so far: Not every alien(!) of a single race should have the same hairstyle!

No matter if it's only bald Klingons, or only Klingons with long Barbarian hair - give us both!
And Vulcans and Romulans with lush, long hair.

I blame the TNG production lot for limited imagination, even TOS Vulcans had some slight differences.

 

[Tim Thomason]

The production staff are imposing their real life racial cultural blindness to a fictional world

They wanted her to look unquestionably Vulcan, and transform her into more human as the show progressed. Hair was a shortcut to that, visually, and she also does a good job expressing more emotion now than before.

I, perhaps, am the only one who thinks that they knew exactly what they were doing with her hair from the start. She's a black woman raised in a white family who is just now coming to terms with her cultural identity and heritage after denying it most of her life. Of course she straightened her hair.

 

[Rahul]

Again, just look at all the Starfleet officers we have seen. They are not the picture of mental health, with officers like Decker, Tracey, Garth of Izar, as well as people taking over insane asylums and that's just in TOS!

Though, to be fair, if you would make a series set on an actual, modern day aircraft carrier, space station or science base - they would have the same amount of crazy people. That's simply how drama works.

 

[Tuskin38]

Romulans having all similar hair styles makes sense based on what we know about their culture, they're very uniform, strict and monotone.

Plus most of the ones we seen are in the military.

 

[Noname Given]

Even Vulcans of the same race shouldn’t all have the same hairstyles.

And in TOS - THEY DIDN'T (See TOS - "Amok Time" and "Journey To Babel". It wasn't until TNG you saw practically all Vulcans (and a number of Romulans) with the trademark 'Spock' bowl hair cut.

 

[Jadeb]

I blame the TNG production lot for limited imagination, even TOS Vulcans had some slight differences.

T’Pring had a very elaborate hairstyle, so there’s no “logical” reason that everyone must wear a Moe.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

Um...the Red Bursts are all the redshirts in every timeline ascending to Heaven...

Zuzu says:
"Every time we see a red burst in the sky, another red shirt gets to die."

 

[Rahul]

I blame the TNG production lot for limited imagination, even TOS Vulcans had some slight differences.

I think the alien-culture-mono-look is simply a SF-staple since the 90s and in movies before that. TOS had more variety (Klingons with blackface, Klingons without...). But that was probably less a result of diversity being pushed behind the screens - and more a result of them not actually having the resources to do consistent alien-looks at all.

 

[Nyotarules]

They wanted her to look unquestionably Vulcan, and transform her into more human as the show progressed. Hair was a shortcut to that, visually, and she also does a good job expressing more emotion now than before.

I, perhaps, am the only one who thinks that they knew exactly what they were doing with her hair from the start. She's a black woman raised in a white family who is just now coming to terms with her cultural identity and heritage after denying it most of her life. Of course she straightened her hair.

Because from TNG production values all aliens look alike even when they have different ethnicities. She looked like a human in a bad wig.

 

[Nyotarules]

They're fictional so why does it matter?

If they were doing this to real life human cultures I would understand and be opposed.

But the Vulcans are fictional, so they could be or do anything.

So next season every white actor playing a Vulcan will be wearing an afro wig, and the female ones in cornrows and braids right since it does not matter, its only fiction.

 

[SJA]

5.
Quite enjoyed Discovery in its first season...at least till the ill-advised Mirror Universe foray...But this...
Oh dear!
The first 20 mins I found excruciating...That narration!
Got a bit better when Pike showed up...Had to laugh when arrogant white 'toxic masculinity' guy bought it early (Never saw that coming...groan!) They have really turned up the whole 'Super-Burnham' thing haven't they? And why have they made Tilly even more annoying? The super tech on Discovery was really jarring -and CGi overload was too much...
Yeah...Have to say I was expecting a bit better....Hopefully new show-runners scripts in future turn things around... Very disappointed....
Think I'll be sticking to the Expanse and my DS9 dvds...

 

[Tuskin38]

So next season every white actor playing a Vulcan will be wearing an afro wig, and the female ones in cornrows and braids right since it does not matter, its only fiction.

Not if it contradicts how they looked before.

Got a bit better when Pike showed up...Had to laugh when arrogant white 'toxic masculinity' guy bought it early

Based on this line alone I don't think you watched the episode. Either that or you were not paying attention at all.

 

[DaveyNY]

The implication being that black Vulcans have to have the same hairstyle as white Vulcans, that is why the actor who played Tuvok had to wear a ghastly wig.....Not. Your conception is steeped in Eurocentricism and you do not even realise it. A fictional Vulcan with brown skin does not need to have the same hair texture as a fictional Vulcan with white skin. Get it now?

And did you completely miss the part about how I suggested that in this day and age, perhaps it's time to move beyond that kind of thinking ... on both sides.
Please don't presume you can put your own misconceived bias into my line of thought.
It's only self effacing on your part and points out how backward that kind of logic is.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It was the school marching band -- and boy, was it a difficult instrument for a marching band.

It's pretty much the triangle of Vulcan band instruments.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Have we talked about the Hiawatha's registry number? Saru realizes its a medical ship simply from its registry number alone. Is it possible we will get some more evidence that the digits in the registry number are for classification and not specifically production numbers (at least perhaps in this specific era)?

Perhaps 3 digit numbers beginning with 8 are medical ships. Perhaps 4 digit numbers with a leading zero (like the USS Kelvin) are for colony transports and so forth.

Edit: looked up the USS Grissom NCC-638, perhaps planetary survey is for the NCC-600's.

 

[Vger23]

So, how do we think the Enterprise and Number One fit into the season going forward? Do we think there's anything more to Enterprise having this unexplained systems failure...or was it just an easy plot gimmick?

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

So next season every Vulcan will be wearing an afro wig, and the female ones in cornrows and braids right since it does not matter, its only fiction.

That's not canon!