News Georgiou Section 31 Series officially announced:

[shapeshifter]

Anyone got a five gallon bucket, 'cause my head exploded and left such huge mess. I knew we were getting some S31 in DSC S2 and looked forward to a little more fleshing out of them there but a whole series devoted to it could be overkill.

As always' I'll keep an open mind, see what happens before I decide to dislike or not.

 

[The Habs Fan]

Nobody was eating sentient beings in there, yes, they had the "Klingon promotion", no, torture was "limited" to actual enemies, not just everyone all the time, and NO, there was no genocide commited on this scale! Hoshi threatened it to get power (similar to how L'Rell did in the DIS finale). But they didn't blow up Kronos, nor the planets of the resistance, and they certainly weren't portrayed as "the good guys".

I'm guessing you never actually watched any Star Trek ever before? Because "cannibalism" surely is new on the table. And "rooting for the guys commiting genocide" as well.

First of all she is not a cannibal since she didn’t eat a member of her own species. She ate a Kelpian. So please stop calling her a cannibal when that’s not what that word means (I’m pretty sure I pointed that out a year ago). In any case, I see all takes on the mirror universe as pretty depraved. The only difference I see is that Georgiou eats a Kelpian in the Discovery one. I found it to be in character for a mirror universe person to do that though.

Whether or not she’ll be the “good guy” remains to be seen.

 

[Dukhat]

Why isn't that in your signature line?

Because Ben Franklin’s quote about the internet is more apt.

 

[Red Panda]

I think you still don't know how and when to use spoiler tags

I did correctly use them. What browser / device are you using?

 

[ITDUDE]

I did correctly use them. What browser / device are you using?

I meant "spoiler" is when you trying to save someone from an actual spoiler. Personal hopes and ideas do not qualify as spoilers.

 

[Rahul]

First of all she is not a cannibal since she didn’t eat a member of her own species. She ate a Kelpian. So please stop calling her a cannibal when that’s not what that word means (I’m pretty sure I pointed that out a year ago). In any case, I see all takes on the mirror universe as pretty depraved. The only difference I see is that Georgiou eats a Kelpian in the Discovery one. I found it to be in character for a mirror universe person to do that though.

She's a cannibal. Full stop.

A fascist, dictator, torturer cannibal.
Now, she's not a "human cannibal". She's a "humanoid cannibal". But by all matter of definitions - she's a cannibal.
That's the word that exists in the English language to describe her behaviour. If you think the definition doesn't fit because she doesn't eat humans - that's not how language works. We simply (currently) don't have a universal definition for non-human humanoids. She eats sentient, humanoid beings. That's cannibalism. Period. If we somehow would clone a Neanderthaler, and then eat him - that would also be cannibalism. Even though he's technically not a human either.

Denying this is disingenious on your part, and really only "wordplay", while ignoring the intended meanings of words behind the thin veil of some arbitrary wording in the broad definition. But that doesn't stop the word "cannibal" from being the proper word to describe her.

 

[thribs]

If Control is in it, I’ll approve it.

 

[eschaton]

If you look at the dictionary definition, murder is only killing humans, meaning those in the Trekverse who kill Vulcans, Andorians, Bajorans, or any other species in cold blood aren't murderers either.

 

[fireproof78]

I wonder how people would respond to a Dukat series?

 

[thribs]

I wonder how people would respond to a Dukat series?

That was DS9 already.

 

[Tuskin38]

If Control is in it, I’ll approve it.

The chance of that happening is 0

None of them made CANNIBAL HITLER the sympathic main character in a non-ironic way.

They haven't made her sympathetic.

 

[DigificWriter]

The definition of cannibalism:

Cannibalism is the act of one individual of a species consuming all or part of another individual of the same species as food.

Georgeiou is not a Kelpian, and therefore she is not guilty of cannibalism.

 

[Tuskin38]

I did correctly use them. What browser / device are you using?

What you said wasn't a spoiler since it's a fan theory not fact
So you used it incorrectly.

 

[fireproof78]

That was DS9 already.

That's not what I meant. I mean a series with Dukat as the lead, possibly a spinoff of him working with Starfleet instead of working with the Dominion.

Or, even more appropriate, what about Kor? He goes from a belligerent military commander, whom Kirk accuses of many different crimes (labor camps, slavery, etc.) and becomes an ally with Dax and Worf.

At what point do individual characters cross the line of irredeemable is my question.

 

[Red Panda]

I meant "spoiler" is when you trying to save someone from an actual spoiler. Personal hopes and ideas do not qualify as spoilers.

What I said is an actual spoiler that Michael Chabon didn't realise wasn't revealed yet, when he did promo for his Short Trek episode and was asked why the short was set 1,000 years in the future.

 

[Tuskin38]

What I said is an actual spoiler that Michael Chabon didn't realise wasn't revealed yet, when he did promo for his Short Trek episode and was asked why the short was set 1,000 years in the future.

Proof or I'm calling bullshit.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Because Ben Franklin’s quote about the internet is more apt.

Not quite as catchy though

 

[Red Panda]

Proof or I'm calling bullshit.

Watch the second Short Trek. It's set 1,000 years in the future, and introduces Annabelle Wallis's character.

 

[eschaton]

That's not what I meant. I mean a series with Dukat as the lead, possibly a spinoff of him working with Starfleet instead of working with the Dominion.

Or, even more appropriate, what about Kor? He goes from a belligerent military commander, whom Kirk accuses of many different crimes (labor camps, slavery, etc.) and becomes an ally with Dax and Worf.

At what point do individual characters cross the line of irredeemable is my question.

Waltz.

 

[Tuskin38]

Watch the second Short Trek. It's set 1,000 years in the future, and introduces Annabelle Wallis's character.

Nothing in that episode said she was sent to the future.