Red Angel. Red matter. They are all Spock....or it’s a Kirk who didn’t get rescued after the Tholian web xD
Klingon change for season 2?
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Red Angel. Red matter. They are all Spock....or it’s a Kirk who didn’t get rescued after the Tholian web xD
It's probably just a side story that's happening parallel.
However there are shots of Tyler in a Starfleet Uniform in the trailers, so they crossover at some point.
I've been wondering about that too. We've seen them in the trailers a few times, but so far that all seems to be unrelated to the Red Angel stuff, which seems to be the main focus of at least the first part of the season. And all of the articles I've read seem to talk about the Klingons separate from the everything else.
If these angels are appearing to people and lighting up the galaxy with red beacons, I'm sure they're bothering the Klingons also.
Plot twist, the spider-leg-wing red Angels of death that bring down starships are *Klingon* Angels, not human ones. Angry over the slaying of their gods, who have come back for revenge.
Yes, please.
The red angels are the Hur'q!
Too true. If anything, they could have explained the Klingon ships we saw in S1 as leftover Hur'q tech without actually showing us any Hur'q.
Or just Klingon designs we never saw before. I mean, we only saw like what, one TOS-era ship? They have to have plenty more then that.
What we saw in ENT was closer to TOS/Movie style too. What we've seen on DSC, as many have derided, are a radical departure in style and at least one, the Ship Of The Dead™, was ancient.
Exactly so. This will continue to be an absurd argument that Klingons must be 100% consistent in design language, and culture, despite the thousands upon thousands of variations upon planet Earth.
One breaks my suspension of disbelief-and it isn't the Discovery approach.
The only issue is they spend 50 years establishing the former, making it one-of-those-dumb-things-we-accept and then hire someone to deliberately ignore all previous Klingon designs and start from scratch.
My thoughts are that part the religious aspect being talked about, has something to do with the way L'Rell supposedly "cured" Tyler at the end of season 1.
It almost seems like the exact opposite of the process we saw in the exchange of Spock's katra to McCoy and the process of putting it back.
(a calm and very spiritual Vulcan Event)
My idea (albeit from waaay out in left field) is that L'Rell has been carrying Voq's 'Essence' (like the Vulcan Katra) after painfully ripping it out of Tyler and plans on putting it back.
The scene shown in the trailer is a Klingon rite in which that transference will occur (another very painful process) and the Klingon's believe that the appearance of the "Red Angels" is a harbinger of the great things Voq will do as their new Spiritual Leader.
It's wacky, but it is not like we haven't seen it before in Trek.
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In that 50 years we have seen some variation, and certainly have not seen a huge variety from this era.
I get that its a change, but it is a welcome one for me. I'm tired of monolithic aliens and would prefer some changes. Seeing more variety in Klingons makes sense!
I would argue that some of the new designs actually make more sense in connection to the big Vorcha cruisers than the Vorcha ever made sense as a straight evolution of the old D7 ships. AFAIC, DSC is just finally showing some of the other historical influences that obviously had to be present among the Klingons all along.
Hopefully, the producers will give us some hints in season 2 that this is exactly what transpired.
So they have more then one design lineage. Sounds like truth in tv to me.
Rarely do designs get completed in a vacuum nor do cultures use the same design for everything. So, it makes sense to have multiple styles of starships for the Klingons.
I'd love to see at least some Augment Klingons in Season 2 as an acknowledgement that the Klingons of TOS and shown being created by the Levodian flu mutation and cure in ENT still exist and have become an integral part of the Klingon Empire's heirarchy. Legendary warriors with respect and adoration across the Empire such as Kor and Kang have Augment Klingon features in TOS so it's not as if every Klingon and their descendants affected by the Augment virus has been treated as a complete outcast and confined to a corner of the Empire where they can't cause trouble for the ruling Houses. We know they exist and ENT not only confirmed they do but even showed us how they were created to begin with.
Bring on the Augment issue. Show how it still affects internal Klingon politics in this era and how those Klingons have managed to integrate into society while still retaining their power, Houses and honor. Even the somewhat dodgy and less-than-honorable Klingon code of behavior of this time period has to acknowledge that a genetic mutation outside the control of those afflicted by it isn't a reason to cast somebody out of their culture. A Klingon who can still hold a blade is still a Klingon and a warrior.
Bring on the Augment issue. Show how it still affects internal Klingon politics in this era and how those Klingons have managed to integrate into society while still retaining their power, Houses and honor. Even the somewhat dodgy and less-than-honorable Klingon code of behavior of this time period has to acknowledge that a genetic mutation outside the control of those afflicted by it isn't a reason to cast somebody out of their culture. A Klingon who can still hold a blade is still a Klingon and a warrior.
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