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Her being Spock's foster-sister is mostly backstory in the first season. Her story arc is about redeeming herself to the eyes of Starfleet. Spock and his family don't have to do with The Story of Redemption.

And then Burnham ended up caught as a pawn in Georgiou and Lorca's personal war in the Mirror Universe. Again, nothing to do with Spock or his family.



I agree with the gist of what you said here, though I don't think we'll see Spock much. But at least they're going out of their way to not have TOS Spock.



Maybe this is what it boils down to. If someone's not interested in Culber, Burnham, L'Rell... and by extension Saru, Tyler, Georgiou, Stamets, Tilly, and Cornwell.... then they're going to start focusing more on the TOS characters: Sarek, Pike, Mudd, and I guess Spock.

I'm interested in Burnham, L'Rell, Georgiou, Stamets, and Tilly's arcs. Saru to a lesser extent. And Cornwell when she shows up.

Culber, ehhh.... I don't know. I'm in the camp who's not too sure about this.

I forgot about Georgiou. I am actually looking forward to seeing what she gets up to. Regardless of how much or little screen time they get I'll always enjoy anything on offer from Tilly and Stamets.
 
Alex Kurtzman:
it’s all gonna tie to how we sync up with canon.
Oh, so you aren't just trying to get into my pants then...

Spock certainly has room to be explored. In the first few episodes of TOS he was a bit more human, smiling, almost mischievous.
 
Oh, so you aren't just trying to get into my pants then...

Spock certainly has room to be explored. In the first few episodes of TOS he was a bit more human, smiling, almost mischievous.
I have a feeling that is going to be down-played when we actually do see him.
He'll probably have lapses of his control, but I don't expect to see him act like that all too often.
 
Maybe Burnham rescuing him will teach him the true meaning of friendship, so we can finally appreciate the end of Wrath of Khan.
 
Well, we're going to see Young Khan on STD - Burnham will sacrifice herself to save the Discovery from the megalomaniac, dying separated from best bud Tilly by a plexiglas wall, and then Culber and the Tardigrade will appear to resurrect Michael while Spock and Voq kick the shit out of Khan as they all hurtle toward an exploding supernova in the otherwise evacuated Enterprise.

Khan and his followers are placed into suspended animation and launched into space aboard their old DY-series spacecraft on the instructions of a mysterious and completely unidentifiable Future Guy, who mysteriously refers to Spock in passing as "You young green-blooded Vulcan son of a bitch bastard motherfucker.*"

A new Enterprise is built, one with a big honkin' deflector dish and spires sticking out the front of the nacelles, and given to Pike and Spock.

Starfleet declares all of this classified, and thus STD is brought into sync with previously established canon.

*"Motherfucker" because this is streaming off-network quality drama. Even lovable southern racists need a little edgy reimaging.
 
Oh, so you aren't just trying to get into my pants then...

Spock certainly has room to be explored. In the first few episodes of TOS he was a bit more human, smiling, almost mischievous.

It's a very peculiar thing. I was reading an old review of TMP the other day and the reviewer called it 'Spockalypse Now' which was a reference to 'Apocalypse Now' which also came out in 1979. In that film, they had to go after Kurtz, because he went rogue and set himself up as a demi-god. So, I thought, who in Hollywood has the name Willard (Martin Sheen's character in the film, who was tasked with going after Kurtz) that we could jokingly have going after Kurtzman.

Next, I find this article about Fred Willard:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-tale-behind-fred-willards-arrest-in-an-adult-film-theater

So, maybe it is all about what's in the pants.

What a tangled weave we web. :borg:
 
It's a very peculiar thing. I was reading an old review of TMP the other day and the reviewer called it 'Spockalypse Now' which was a reference to 'Apocalypse Now' which also came out in 1979. In that film, they had to go after Kurtz, because he went rogue and set himself up as a demi-god. So, I thought, who in Hollywood has the name Willard (Martin Sheen's character in the film, who was tasked with going after Kurtz) that we could jokingly have going after Kurtzman.

Next, I find this article about Fred Willard:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-tale-behind-fred-willards-arrest-in-an-adult-film-theater

So, maybe it is all about what's in the pants.

What a tangled weave we web. :borg:
... when first we practice to deceive ...
:cool:
 
I'm surprised no one is discussing this photo of Spock's quarters:

sdcc18-disco-panel-spocksgone.jpg


See if you can find all the TOS decor! That's attention to continuity, I think.

Vulcan lyre and weird bell thing: check!
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Rhomboid-shaped viewscreen / window(?) and vertical metal grate: Check!
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And it almost looks like you can see the three-D chess set on the table under the bright viewscreen.
 
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IMHO, the best possible use of Spock in this season would be as follows:

When we first meet Spock (under whatever plot contrivance is needed) Spock is not yet "our Spock." Like the shouty Spock of The Cage, he's more than a little bit emotional, due to a combination of natural (half) human inclinations and his mother's influence. However, the interaction with Burnham over the course of the series brings up negative emotions in Spock - very negative ones indeed. He ultimately makes the decision to both totally cut off contact with Burnham and to engage in rituals (and maybe surgical procedures) to purge himself of any remaining connection to his human half, trying to put his resentment behind him.

The reason i would like this is because I really would like to see Burnham, as our protagonist and "hero," basically lose a round. That is to say, to show that some relationships cannot be fixed - that sometimes even if we have good intentions, we simply make things worse and there is no possibility of redemption. It would be a much more "adult" conclusion to that arc than finding out that somehow, Micheal Burnham saves the day yet again.
 
Is anyone asking for this? Why do this? Just make Discovery with your Discovery characters and go out and Discover.

I say this, meanwhile I think Pike's a great addition given the trailer.
But the Discovery crew of the USS Discovery is set to discover what made Spock......er, Spock :biggrin:
 
However, the interaction with Burnham over the course of the series brings up negative emotions in Spock - very negative ones indeed. He ultimately makes the decision to both totally cut off contact with Burnham and to engage in rituals (and maybe surgical procedures) to purge himself of any remaining connection to his human half, trying to put his resentment behind him.

Apparently Spock has the same reaction to Discovery that I did.
 
I'm surprised no one is discussing this photo of Spock's quarters:

sdcc18-disco-panel-spocksgone.jpg


See if you can find all the TOS decor! That's attention to continuity, I think.

Vulcan lyre and weird bell thing: check!
5340702863_376b57d7cc_b.jpg


Rhomboid-shaped viewscreen / window(?) and vertical metal grate: Check!
5341315114_e31a4ceaca_b.jpg

And it almost looks like you can see the three-D chess set on the table under the bright viewscreen.

Already been discussed in the season 2 teaser thread. And yes, that is the Tri-D chess set.
 
From the article:
Alex Kurtzman:
What I’m so excited about is that we have an opportunity to present a version of Spock that’s both totally consistent with the Spock everyone knows but very, very different.

Oh god. No.
This will SO not gonna' end well...
 
From the article:


Oh god. No.
This will SO not gonna' end well...

Yeah, that is also worrisome. I'm trying to picture how he's going to be "totally consistent" and yet not just different, but "very, very different."

"Whaddya mean our Spock on our show doesn't seem like the 'real' Spock? We gave him pointy ears and a blue shirt, didn't we?"

 
This news is hardly a revelation to me. It makes sense they show us how he went from The Cage to TOS. I imagine his adventures with his foster sister could play a big part of that.
 
Dude... It's not "STD". Do you know what that is? It's "DSC".

I prefer DIS, which is what I use. It keeps with VOY and ENT, both of which are abbreviations based upon the first three letters of the one-word title after Discovery.

TNG and DS9 are of course based upon the first letter of each word after the Star Trek: This didn't work for VOY, ENT, or DIS for obvious reasons.

STD makes no sense because it wasn't STTNG, STDS9, STV, or STE. But DSC makes even less sense.
 
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