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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

Roughly half of US likes Trump. Many of them, posters on this very board. And all of them very reasonable. Let's drop any and all discussions of Trump from now on. No good can come off it.
No, roughly a quarter of the US likes Trump. And I have yet to encounter a person who's reasonable about it. But, again, I wasn't trying to start a conversation about him. So I'll leave it at that, and leave judgments of those people's credibility, and mine, for readers to decide on their own.
 
I'm more worried about whether or not it entertained me.
Well, if we stipulate for the sake of argument that something is bad storytelling, then I'd think that would preclude being entertained by it. It's far more likely to be annoying and frustrating, no?
 
Well, if we stipulate for the sake of argument that something is bad storytelling...

I think, more than anything, bad storytelling is in the eye of the beholder. Unfortunately, not even I am the arbiter of what is good storytelling.
 
Well, if we stipulate for the sake of argument that something is bad storytelling, then I'd think that would preclude being entertained by it. It's far more likely to be annoying and frustrating, no?

Not necessarily....because we can dislike something for one reason over here, but appreciate some aspect of it over there. The story can be subjectively bad, but we can still appreciate other aspects of it.

As an example, I don't care for the plot of the Robin Williams movie RV but I appreciate that he did the best he could with the script he had to work with and I enjoy his performance.
 
I think, more than anything, bad storytelling is in the eye of the beholder. Unfortunately, not even I am the arbiter of what is good storytelling.
Perhaps so — hence the stipulation. You said you were more worried about whether it entertained you than whether it was bad storytelling, though, which suggests that even by your own standards you don't see an incompatibility. That's what I was curious about.
 
Not necessarily....because we can dislike something for one reason over here, but appreciate some aspect of it over there.
Lest this be overlooked, I've previously stipulated that ST09 was not entirely without merit. It was visually impressive, and it had some decent acting. It's just that those merits are wildly outweighed by the godawful storytelling — that is to say, the fact that it was horrendously written from beginning to end, chock-full of wild coincidences piled atop one another and characters saying and doing things that made not a lick of sense.
 
Perhaps so — hence the stipulation. You said you were more worried about whether it entertained you than whether it was bad storytelling, though, which suggests that even by your own standards you don't see an incompatibility. That's what I was curious about.

I was incomplete in my wording (I just woke up from a nap, I'm old). I am more worried about whether it entertained me than whether or not other people think it is bad storytelling.

From time to time, we get too wrapped up in what other people think of something. I think the first season of Discovery was mostly awful, others think it was great. No one is really right, except in the sense of how it impacted them personally.
 
Remember when this thread was supposed to be about the Discoprise? Good times.

This could have been an interesting way to go to tie things together:

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No bendy pylons; just stop it!

Hmmm....I just read this quote, from a structural engineer:

"Straight beam carries only bending moment and shear force whereas curved beam has to carry bending moment, shear force and torsional moment. The torsional moment apprears due to beam's geometry, its centroid of geometry(C.G) does not lie on its length. Resultant force acting on C.G creates this torsional moment at beam supports. Torsional moment will be product of resultant force and lever arm between C.G and supports."
 
Hmmm....I just read this quote, from a structural engineer:

"Straight beam carries only bending moment and shear force whereas curved beam has to carry bending moment, shear force and torsional moment. The torsional moment apprears due to beam's geometry, its centroid of geometry(C.G) does not lie on its length. Resultant force acting on C.G creates this torsional moment at beam supports. Torsional moment will be product of resultant force and lever arm between C.G and supports."

Does any of that matter with a spacecraft operating in zero G?
 
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