• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Paramount Confirms TWO Star Trek films currently in the works!

My main problem with Uhura's role in Beyond was just that her relationship with Spock was a major plot point and she wasn't allowed even one scene to weigh in on her own relationship. It was all just Spock making decisions with McCoy as his sounding board. But otherwise, I thought she did great on the planet and had a solid role, and I still love the movie to bits.

For me uhura's realtionship with spock was one of the best parts of beyond. great chemistry, convincing love story, maturity, well done with lots of understanding and mutual respect for each other and Uhura did make the decision by returning the necklace.
this was perfect. Zoe and Zack do a great job here alone.
To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

It is the exact opposite of what their realtionship was in into darkness. I have just made peace that STID is a poorly written film.
 
Last edited:
Yes, she came to her own decision. I'm referring to the incredible lopsidedness of how the whole movie shows Spock wrestling with the decision, but her side of that is forced completely offscreen.

She had more agency in stid when she was allowed to express her feelings in her relationship and interact with her boyfriend (which includes arguing, something the guys do with Spock all the time and in all contexts and no one cares) , but since some fans have double standards and criticize women for stuff they actually praise the guys for (eg she's ironically hated for the very thing fans love about Mccoy's interactions with Spock), I guess beyond's writers thought that completely deleting her pov and making Mccoy say that maybe she was 'upset', without actually allowing her to express that, or other feelings, on screen is more 'feminist' and would placate those fans. Not to mention they use her own relationship as an excuse to make the two guys interact and show emotion all the while she, who is actually part of the relationship, isn't allowed the same courtesy (because, in some fans' almost blackmail, if she does, she's a bitch).
That isn't treating women equally or being inclusive of their voices, but then again Pegg admitted he can't write for women and in their dynamics. Beyond is more or less like his other movies when it comes to some aspects.

Ironically, Uhura's relationship (and her character) still IS more important to the lead male character and his arc (her feelings also are implied being important to him) so if people minimize it, or claim that the writers ditched it, they are projecting.
However, it seems like, from a general perspective, she's more acceptable in beyond because of the illusion she's more passive than in stid, and she basically allows the guys to express feelings she isn't allowed to express herself as she gotta be a strongggg (independent. woman .) and kindly shut up because we have no time for her stupid feelings (and Sulu's, don't forget they cut his major bonding scene with Uhura too) that take away from the bros. Even the romance seems to be suddenly more acceptable to some when she 'shuts up'.

The fact there are people who, even for Beyond, still insist on that 'she is just a love interest!' and still call her a damsel in distress or too emotional it really speaks volumes about how, in the eyes of people who have firmly established sexist double standards, Uhura just can't win. Hopeless. I even read some complaining that Jaylah's one emotional moment where she is scared and remembers her family makes her 'weak' and ruined her.
 
Last edited:
Yes, she came to her own decision. I'm referring to the incredible lopsidedness of how the whole movie shows Spock wrestling with the decision, but her side of that is forced completely offscreen.
my fair criticsm of Beyond is we could have used more character moments. kirk. spock uhura. but still they are better characterised in every way that is better compared to STID.
 
Anyone understood what they were saying in that article? Lol
it is like it said everything and absolutely nothing at once.
 
At this point they have no choice, too late for a 2019. Not even sure that 2020 release to be honest. No official announcement yet.
Though they have time for filming, especially if they want to try a September or Xmas release this time.
Star wars episode 9 gets released in 2019 and they hadn't filmed it yet.

Better trek takes their time than rushing it like they did for Beyond. So be 2020.
 
yeh no much hope for (late) 2019 now as most late 2019 films are shooting or just about to (and Trek wouldn't want to be anywhere near EpIX anyway). so no 2019 tie in with various Trek anniversaries (TOS end, TMP, TFF, GEN, ST09)

recently Indy 5 moved from 10 July 2020 to 9 July 2021 so maybe ST4 take that spot?
 
Last edited:
At this point they have no choice, too late for a 2019. Not even sure that 2020 release to be honest. No official announcement yet.
Though they have time for filming, especially if they want to try a September or Xmas release this time.
Star wars episode 9 gets released in 2019 and they hadn't filmed it yet.

Better trek takes their time than rushing it like they did for Beyond. So be 2020.
at this point 2020 will come in no time. and they've got a 5th cued up.
 
i could be wrong, but i feel like there were blurbs like this around or after beyond saying quinto felt like he was done with spock. either way, glad to see him embracing the character. even discovery's producers have acknowledged he owns the character.

still can't say i'm totally on board with the notion of an R-rated trek film. or that i really believe it'll happen in the way it's being discussed now.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top