Paramount Confirms TWO Star Trek films currently in the works!

[pst]

I wonder if the rumors of QT's 'Yesterday's Entetprise' theme are also true, this would be a wrap for the new crew?

That would be five for them, six for TOS, & four for TNG. Seems about right. And a time travel/Yesterday's Entetprise perhaps re-integrates the Kelvinverse.

i'd be satisfied with four. five feels like a gift, so i'm stoked.

however, i would really rather they not do anything that plays with the timeline in terms of undoing damage or reintegrating the kelvin timeline with the prime universe. there's a certain subset of fans and critics who never took to the kelvin timeline films, CBS and discovery essentially pretend it doesn't exist. doing anything to tamper with the timeline or undo the events of the recent films feels like paramount or bad robot admitting the "JJ trek" was never "real trek" and that'd be shame.

 

[saddestmoon]

^^^ I concur!

The Kelvinverse was never broken - and doesn’t need repairing whatsoever.

That said, I wouldn’t mind seeing George Kirk again, so a bit of timey-wimeyness is okay with me, so long as the Kelvinverse continues to exist and carry onwards, distinct from the Prime.

I still like my idea for James T Kirk going back in time, and preventing the USS Kelvin from being destroyed - but it results in adult James T Kirk ensuring his father George Kirk survives - and adult James returns to the future Kelvinverse - which still carries on, but with the changed events of his fathers surviving then spawns a new Kelvinverse timeline fork: a spinoff TV series simply called Star Trek: Kelvin - the adventures of George Kirk (under Captain Robau).

Back In the future, adult Kirk carries on, but with the knowledge his father lives! More movies ensue!

:P apologies - I’m typing quickly and somewhat tired, so will prolly revisit these ideas again in the cold light of day...

 

[Khan 2.0]

black panther actress circling Trek 4
http://www.superherohype.com/news/4...or-godzilla-vs-kong-also-circling-star-trek-4

 

[pst]

black panther actress circling Trek 4
http://www.superherohype.com/news/4...or-godzilla-vs-kong-also-circling-star-trek-4

she's fantastic, i would love to see her in trek.

and it's interesting to see they're already into casting.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Didn't someone here suggest her as Kelvin Micheal a few months back?

 

[Bad Robot]

Promising sign if true. With CBS moving ahead on their 5 year deal with Kurtzman, it would be good for Paramount/BR to start locking down a timeline for their two movies.

 

[F. King Daniel]

What is it with Trek inheriting black actresses from The Walking Dead?

Very happy they're casting! Hopefully Jennifer Morrison will be back too although she's not heard anything yet.

 

[pst]

Didn't someone here suggest her as Kelvin Micheal a few months back?

there was some talk here along the lines of “gee, after the success of black panther, maybe CBS grabbed the wrong star of the walking dead for discovery”. but if we can have both danai gurira and sonequa martin green in trek, that’s an embarrassment of riches.

 

[Malaika]

could she possibly play the navigation officer we saw replacing Chekov in Into Darkness? http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Darwin
The movies don't have to follow what happens in the comics BUT in the latter, she's aboard the ship Kirk is temporarily assigned to. Just in the realm of speculation but if they were to borrow this idea from the comics, and they also need to explain Chekov's absence as him leaving the ship for some reason, it would be fitting for Kirk to bring on his ship some of the officers he had worked with on the other while he was waiting for his own ship to get completed.

or like some are saying, maybe reboot Guinan. why not?

I don't think anyone will play Michael (aside from the fact that it would make more sense for Sonequa to play her in the reboot too if that were the case) because I feel like there is a division between tv-trek and film-trek still where the two cannot cross paths and use each other ideas. I'm still convinced that Discovery was meant to be in the Kelvin timeline for example but they couldn't use it.


eta: it's two new female roles they are looking actresses for. One is the villain
https://screenrant.com/star-trek-4-villain-details-cast/


still in the realm of rumors of course. I hope they make some official announcement about.. anything soon.

 

[Dales]

It's weird how what's "un-Spock-like" has changed over the decades

Not gonna lie, I prefer the struggling emotional tornado Spock of '09 and ID. I relate.

09 Spock's rage was cool. if anyone talk shit about my Mum I will loose it too even if I was an android.

Into darkness rage was just ill timed and silly for two reasons.

1. Kirk's death, a rip off of Wrath of Khan
2. An excuse to do an action fight scene between Spock and Khan and it was not even a trek style action fight scene like kirk and krall in beyond. spock and khan was like watching a MCU movie or something.

 

[fireproof78]

1. Kirk's death, a rip off of Wrath of Khan
2. An excuse to do an action fight scene between Spock and Khan and it was not even a trek style action fight scene like kirk and krall in beyond. spock and khan was like watching a MCU movie or something.

Kirk's death made sense of a character arc pov.

Define "Star Trek like" action scene. Really, the original time that Kirk beat up Khan was pretty much all fisticuffs and Kirk wasn't even as strong as Khan. Spock at least made sense to engage in hand to hand because the strength would match.

Also, Spock's rage makes sense because it is just one loss after another and another. How long before he would snap?

 

[pst]

1. Kirk's death, a rip off of Wrath of Khan

 

[CorporalClegg]

there was some talk here along the lines of “gee, after the success of black panther, maybe CBS grabbed the wrong star of the walking dead for discovery”. but if we can have both danai gurira and sonequa martin green in trek, that’s an embarrassment of riches.

Ah. I haven't got to Black Panther yet (And have no interest in Walking Dead.) and don't know her that well. I just remembered someone mentioning her name in a Micheal-related thread.

 

[Dales]

Kirk's death made sense of a character arc pov.

Define "Star Trek like" action scene. Really, the original time that Kirk beat up Khan was pretty much all fisticuffs and Kirk wasn't even as strong as Khan. Spock at least made sense to engage in hand to hand because the strength would match.

Also, Spock's rage makes sense because it is just one loss after another and another. How long before he would snap?

I define a star trek like action scene as still having more humanity or somewhat realistic and believable or moving the story forward. MCU fights scenes or even ironically fast and furious fight scenes usually look fake, a chance to show of cool visual effects. no depth. I felt more humanity watching kirk and krall fight in beyond,

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Which is why I want to give praise to Justin Lin for Beyond. into darkness turned out more fast and furious than Star Trek Beyond.
If spock's rage did not have him scream Khan, I may have reconsidered ..may have since for me kirk's death should not have been there in the first place especially when he came back to life 5 minutes later and was exactly like Spock's death in WOK. poor writing.

 

[Malaika]

Both fight scenes are hollywood formula in big franchises...I wish Krall had actually changed his mind in the end because for a moment it looked like he did. But nah..villain gotta villain. Nero>>>everyone so far lol

The thing I like in the one from stid is when Uhura gets there and Spock is shock that she saved him. He did notice her phaser was only set to stun, and thus how in danger she was. It's well acted and subtle in all his facial expressions and when she got there, it's like he got all this new energy and motivation. And then when she tries to stop him..
It's still funny and pretentious that Kirk thanks only him in the end and Mccoy has to remind him that him and Uhura deserve (more) credit. That's typical...


Btw, im reading the claim from the original article that filming should start on early 2019 but how they could do that I dunno.
If they finally make an announcement, complete contracts, make new contracts and start actual production by the end of this year, the best case scenario is them filming in spring/summer just like Beyond.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

'Star Trek 4' Rumored to Feature Female Villain, New Female Hero
&
'Star Trek 4' to Reportedly Begin Production in Early 2019

 

[Dales]

Both fight scenes are hollywood formula in big franchises...I wish Krall had actually changed his mind in the end because for a moment it looked like he did. But nah..villain gotta villain. Nero>>>everyone so far lol

The thing I like in the one from stid is when Uhura gets there and Spock is shock that she saved him. He did notice her phaser was only set to stun, and thus how in danger she was. It's well acted and subtle in all his facial expressions and when she got there, it's like he got all this new energy and motivation. And then when she tries to stop him..
It's still funny and pretentious that Kirk thanks only him in the end and Mccoy has to remind him that him and Uhura deserve (more) credit. That's typical...

Both fight scenes are hollywood formula in big franchises...I wish Krall had actually changed his mind in the end because for a moment it looked like he did. But nah..villain gotta villain. Nero>>>everyone so far lol

The thing I like in the one from stid is when Uhura gets there and Spock is shock that she saved him. He did notice her phaser was only set to stun, and thus how in danger she was. It's well acted and subtle in all his facial expressions and when she got there, it's like he got all this new energy and motivation. And then when she tries to stop him..
It's still funny and pretentious that Kirk thanks only him in the end and Mccoy has to remind him that him and Uhura deserve (more) credit. That's typical...


Btw, im reading the claim from the original article that filming should start on early 2019 but how they could do that I dunno.
If they finally make an announcement, complete contracts, make new contracts and start actual production by the end of this year, the best case scenario is them filming in spring/summer just like Beyond.

Btw, im reading the claim from the original article that filming should start on early 2019 but how they could do that I dunno.
If they finally make an announcement, complete contracts, make new contracts and start actual production by the end of this year, the best case scenario is them filming in spring/summer just like Beyond.

STID is cliche generic fighting not Beyond. what made beyond better is kirk and krall actually fight and have a conservation about the federation flaws,kirk even admits the federation is not perfect but there is a better tomorrow and things change. that is what gives beyond depth than into darkness lacks where it was just your typical punch fight between khan and spock with little dialogue.

Uhura should not have been there in STID helping Spock, it is hypocritical to me that anyone can criticise Bones for been shoved into fight scenes in beyond but uhura, also not been fighter either, shoved into STID fight scene is somewhat okay. if anyone should have assisted spock in STID it should have been Sulu not uhura. if anyone should have assisted Spock in beyond during the york town battle it should have been Sulu too since Sulu is both a great pilot and great fighter.

Overall Beyond takes it for better story telling that STID does not have.

 

[fireproof78]

I define a star trek like action scene as still having more humanity or somewhat realistic and believable or moving the story forward. MCU fights scenes or even ironically fast and furious fight scenes usually look fake, a chance to show of cool visual effects. no depth. I felt more humanity watching kirk and krall fight in beyond,

Agree to disagree. The Krall fight felt far more like cool effects than anything else.

If spock's rage did not have him scream Khan, I may have reconsidered ..may have since for me kirk's death should not have been there in the first place especially when he came back to life 5 minutes later and was exactly like Spock's death in WOK. poor writing.

If one takes it out and simply stacks it against TWOK's scene, I would agree. However, viewed from the character's POV, knowing that he wouldn't survive, it carries far more weight, as does Spock's rage and another failure on his watch. The emotions that are carried with his fight with Khan, and Khan's own rage at his losses carry through as well. I don't need speeches to see the humanity conveyed.

 

[Malaika]

The difference between Bones and Uhura, thus why him being the action character in fight scenes is more forced, is the fact that Uhura's role doesn't make it a big conflict when she holds a phaser and possibly attacks others to defend herself or her superiors, while for the ship's doctor it is a conflict. A comm officer doesn't sign the hippocratic oath, but a doctor does.
In fact, McCoy was supposed to have a scene like that in beyond where he'd feel very unconfortable holding a phaser, but they cut it.

Also, while Uhura is likely trained for that kind of action (as her scene with the klingons already shows) and canon certaintly didn't establish she is uncomfortable in some contexts (in that scene from stid the subtext also is that she is someone whom Spock is more likely to listen to) , Mccoy being a pilot may be forced because canon has already established that be can barely take a shuttle as a passenger and he hates flying in general. Piloting an alien vessel isn't a thing you can learn to do in two minutes, especially if you aren't already trained for piloting in general and you have a phobia too. It's kind of a defining aspect of his personality too.

In a way, the narrative forced him into an uncharacteristic role in a bad moment for the crew where many potentially injured people might've needed his expertise on the ship. It's more likely he'd choose, like he always does, to stay behind on the ship and do his job.

I suppose the same argument used against Uhura for the fight scenes in stid could be used, ironically, for Spock and Kirk too. Technically, both of them could've been replaced by security officers because, for their roles, they shouldn't be considered better trained or more useful than others (in the klingons scene especially). Of course, everything is always a pretext to make the characters interact and this includes Uhura, Kirk ad Spock too.
Point is, of all the characters, it's Mccoy's presence in certain scenes that is more noticeable because of his role and what canon has already established about him in both tos and reboot.

That said, I didn't honestly read that much complaining about Mccoy's scenes, tbh. If anything, the only hypocrisy is in the people who complained about the Uhura scenes because she's a woman, but have no issues with the guys and their own roles and training - Mccoy being the most blatant case ( in light of what I said above).

 

[Grendelsbayne]

My main problem with Uhura's role in Beyond was just that her relationship with Spock was a major plot point and she wasn't allowed even one scene to weigh in on her own relationship. It was all just Spock making decisions with McCoy as his sounding board. But otherwise, I thought she did great on the planet and had a solid role, and I still love the movie to bits.