Yeah I don't think that applies to the product's trivia and minutia
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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You’re right of course - it’s just my favourite insult from any Trek series ever.
Andddd it’s related to changing the timeline because Captain Braxton!
Prime? Canon? Continuity? It's all at the whim of CBS, really. In-universe "proof" is hard with out tearing down and pulverizing the fourth wall.
Hence, screw intentIf intent is the key, then Enterprise is an alternate to timeline because Braga said so.
And then he said it wasn't.If intent is the key, then Enterprise is an alternate to timeline because Braga said so.
I have to admit, it's a pretty good oneYou’re right of course - it’s just my favourite insult from any Trek series ever.
Andddd it’s related to changing the timeline because Captain Braxton!
Well, yes, CBS has pretty much direct control over one of those and strong indirect control over two and they could change all of it if they wanted but for the moment I'm working with what I'm seeing on screen.Prime? Canon? Continuity? It's all at the whim of CBS, really. In-universe "proof" is hard with out tearing down and pulverizing the fourth wall.
Actually, logically it can ONLY be in Prime if it's meant to be the same ship.
No one does. But people engage the material in different ways.
I think if we're to communicate efficiently we need to agree on the basic rules. If each fan can construct their own head-canon, then I could say that "Vulcanian" is the real way to pronounce Spock's species' name, or pull some obscure novel and consider it more real than some TNG episode that was aired later, etc.
Say you don't like X that's part of canon, fine. But the fact remains that there is only one "official" Trek and that's what CBS decides is official. Otherwise we have no basis for discussion at all.
But what's on screen has to sell to a modern audience. So that will change to suit current tastes and trends and that doesn't have to mean a new "universe". I'm judging the show on how it stacks up to current shows when it comes to writing, SFX, design and costuming not what was seen 50 years ago. The "history" is a different matter. I expect them to be faithful to established backstory for the characters we've seen before and even the events of the universe.
Windows on the new ship are weird. If the ship is 480 metres long, they must be huge... Also, I earlier said how windows on TOS and TMP ship's saucer rim do not make sense in 300ish metre size, as there is properly no room for two decks. Well, in this new size the old window arrangement would work... except they changed it, and now the windows seem to imply just one deck on the saucer rim...
My point was if it WAS the same ship it would be in Prime, but it obviously is not the same ship so it's not Prime
What's the difference? They make the calls about what's official and what's in what universe.
If intent is the key, then Enterprise is an alternate to timeline because Braga said so.
Quick! Grab that low-hanging fruit!
No, they can also retroactively change their minds.
How is it "obviously" not the same ship? Did you suddenly forget that the makers of Star Trek can also retroactively change how things look, as they have done countless times in past decades?
Stop confusing Prime and Canon.
Primonuity.
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As a linguist I proclaim that this blend of prime, canon, and continuity should officially be the new term for discussions relating to “how Star Trek don’t make no sense when compared to itself”
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