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Alex Kurtzman Gets New Deal With CBS, Will Expand 'Star Trek' TV

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Books aren't canon, as every likes to keep retorting here.

The Discoprise is about 480m, a good bit less than her 720m Kelvinprise counterpart.
 
Just wondering, where do all these sizes come from anyway? I'm pretty sure I watched all of Trek I never had any sense of how big anything was supposed to be.
Some of us are more accustomed to.... ahem... measuring.... than others.
 
Blueprints, technical manuals, Encyclopedias and whatnot from 1975-present. Here's the updated Ency from last year:
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Okay, but that's all non-canon when it comes down to it (as seems to be the only size of the Discovery I could find, from the Eaglemoss Starship collection.) Since the Discovery and the Enterprise seemed to be the same size on-screen (although admittedly we haven't had a good comparison shot yet) it seems more logical to me to assume that they are roughly the same size instead of the Discovery being twice as big as the Enterprise, based on some non-canon sources.
 
And don't forget that a lot of Dsicovery is her nacelles in terms of length (at least over a third of it) and there are large empty areas, cutouts etc drastically reducing her overall internal volume compared to other ships.

The sporedrive could have large mechanical sections we can't see wasting even more room. The BotBS fleet was much smaller.
 
Okay, but that's all non-canon when it comes down to it (as seems to be the only size of the Discovery I could find, from the Eaglemoss Starship collection.) Since the Discovery and the Enterprise seemed to be the same size on-screen (although admittedly we haven't had a good comparison shot yet) it seems more logical to me to assume that they are roughly the same size instead of the Discovery being twice as big as the Enterprise, based on some non-canon sources.

Assuming the central saucer is of a size...disco would be longer at the least. ‘Big’ is always a funny one with starships.
 
Okay, but that's all non-canon when it comes down to it (as seems to be the only size of the Discovery I could find, from the Eaglemoss Starship collection.) Since the Discovery and the Enterprise seemed to be the same size on-screen (although admittedly we haven't had a good comparison shot yet) it seems more logical to me to assume that they are roughly the same size instead of the Discovery being twice as big as the Enterprise, based on some non-canon sources.
The Disco Enterprise size comes from the proposed sizes and scales of the model kits that Round 2 is working on. I suspect they will have access to some the source material that the producers are working with.

https://trekmovie.com/2018/06/06/polar-lights-to-launch-star-trek-discovery-model-line/
 
Yeah it's not like Paramount/CBS spent 5 decades selling us stuff with those sizes written on it, or scaled CG models to those sizes in ENT and TOS-R.
Since those items are not canon then yes they can be changed.

Still a question of how it impacts enjoyment :shrug:I love starships and beautiful visuals and tech manuals and the like, but there is no need for one size to be the be all end of a starship.
 
Indeed. Unlike the Kelvin Enterprise size scandal.

Scandelous. How dare Starfleet upsize to face down a gigantic starship from a Romulan threat.

Ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Hey I wasn't trying to reignite the size debate, I just meant that if the ship animation style is a direct proportional copy of the live action, as seen in Archer, then we will know what any new designs look like in the real world. As opposed to Star Wars: The Clone Wars or Rebels where the ships are stylized from their live action counterparts.
 
Since those items are not canon then yes they can be changed.

Still a question of how it impacts enjoyment :shrug:I love starships and beautiful visuals and tech manuals and the like, but there is no need for one size to be the be all end of a starship.
I guess it's the way they're doing it. Viewed as a reboot, there's no issue whatsoever. It's a new Enterprise with it's own rules just like the Kelvin version. It's just the silly "it's the prime universe!" thing where this overwrites all that came before and everything you knew was wrong. Trek is doing it's own legacy a disservice.
 
I guess it's the way they're doing it. Viewed as a reboot, there's no issue whatsoever. It's a new Enterprise with it's own rules just like the Kelvin version. It's just the silly "it's the prime universe!" thing where this overwrites all that came before and everything you knew was wrong. Trek is doing it's own legacy a disservice.
Agree to disagree. I see the details being overwritten, not the legacy itself. If the legacy is in the size of the starship and not in the characters of the show, then I see that as being wrong. That's like saying Tolkien's greatest contribution to the literary and fantasy world is the map of Middle Earth he drew.
 
Agree to disagree. I see the details being overwritten, not the legacy itself. If the legacy is in the size of the starship and not in the characters of the show, then I see that as being wrong. That's like saying Tolkien's greatest contribution to the literary and fantasy world is the map of Middle Earth he drew.

Has anyone ever redrawn that map, in all the adaptations done over the years?
 
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